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Re: Recoil fad 3 days ago by Christopher Howse Re: Recoil fad

I think the comparison of but plates on Walnut stocks and recoilbpads on Synthetic stocks of comparable production rifles is because the lighter synthetic s do recoil more for the came cartridge. I think there is a belief the timber also absorbs recoil to a degree. I believe that somewhere here a few years ago Nathan wrote something about soft and squishy recoil pads on rifles. To the effect of saying they are not on military rifles maybe and they don't necessarily make you a better shooter. It'..

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Re: Recoil fad 4 days ago by Vince Re: Recoil fad

Hi Scott, With the recoil pads, as you say it's probably down to aesthetics, no-one wants to pay for a high grade walnut stock then shorten it to add an ugly pad. With the cheaper rifles which probably make up the bulk of sales and profits, why not put them on. Whether they work with felt recoil reduction, or customers simply think they do either way it's a win for the seller. Same thing with the threaded muzzles on 223's etc, if your customers think they need it then make it a selling point and..

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Re: Recoil fad 4 days ago by Scott Struif Re: Recoil fad

It seems like a threaded muzzle would be a special-order item that youíd pay extra for. But many production rifles from the cheapest (TC Compass), to higher-end (Sako 85) come threaded, no matter what the caliber. I can see Vinceís point of using a silencer on a brush gun. You need to be able to hear game, and may not have time to deploy hearing protection. But why thread any gun with less recoil than a 300WM?

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Re: Recoil fad 5 days ago by Warwick Marflitt Re: Recoil fad

Come on Scott! The Thread protectors there to protect the thread. Your shoe laces are there to stop ya boots falling off . A Muzzle break should have strings not threads....... To Hook behind the ears and muffle the low Caliber turds...... It's a broke conspiracy that a .22LR needs a break or a brake ..... Tanks and Artillery need em four shore.....A 223, 7.5x55, 44-40wcf Nah!!! Silencers yes a valuable tool and asset......... Then again? Remember "NEVER ARGUE WITH A FOOL, THEY'LL DRAG YOU DOWN ..

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Re: Recoil fad 6 days ago by Scott Struif Re: Recoil fad

Thanks Vince. Your observations and the video were most informative. My curiosity about recoil pads was piqued recently looking at photos of the current offerings from Ruger. Their high-end Hawkeye wood-stocked models have a thin rubber butt plate, whereas all their synthetic-stocked models feature a thick recoil pad with the appearance of ďventingĒ reminiscent of the Pachmayr pads of yore. My guess is itís all driven by cosmetics. Even if they had evidence the thick recoil pads helped reduce re..

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Re: Recoil fad 6 days ago by Vince Re: Recoil fad

Hi Scott, Interesting question, I was reading something the other day about curved gun stock butts in the early american days to aid shooting from horseback. I find rubber recoil pads useful, largely becasue they don't slide around. I guess the compression must help in at least a minor way to reduce recoil but from what I understand stock design and shape is far more important. A mate of mine has a 7mm Rem Mag in a Tikka Hunter Wood and Stainless model, theoretically along with the 30.06 on the ..

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Recoil fad 7 days ago by Scott Struif Recoil fad

I bought my first high-power rifle in 1981, a Winchester Model 70 in 30-06. It had no recoil pad, just a thin plastic butt-plate. A year later, I bought a Remington in 6mm Rem - again, just a plastic butt-plate. I grew up shooting 12 gauge shotguns with no recoil pads. Nowadays, most 223s come with a recoil pad; some are even threaded for a muzzle break. I wonder, was there some scientific study done to confirm that pads, such as the PACHMAYR, really made people shoot better? And muzzle brakes? ..

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Re: intermediate range scopes 10 days ago by Scott Struif Re: intermediate range scopes

Hi Ben. I canít answer your primary question, but as for FFP, Iíd definitely rule it out if you might be shooting in low-light at low-magnification. The topic was discussed at length in a previous post, which may be helpful to you: https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Resources/Discussion+Forums/x_forum/21/thread/22561.html

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intermediate range scopes 11 days ago by Ben Law intermediate range scopes

does anybody know of any 3-15, 4-16 power scopes you can recommend. i have 2 6-24x50's, an s3 and a vortex viper pst, but i would prefer a bit less mag, most importantly at the lower end. i'm thinking 3.5-15x50 nightforce nxs for my main rifle. i have seen the threads on the s-tac, 3-16 reticle is too thin, 4-20 might be ok but it would be replacing the bigger sightron s3 so its really not going to be the same quality. i'm a bit fussy, i want a good moa hash reticle for windage, and good diallin..

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Re: Developing an ultimate close range Sambar load for .308 14 days ago by Scott Struif Re: Developing an ultimate close range Sambar load for .308

https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Resources/Discussion+Forums/x_forum/24/thread/22358.html Hi Hannah. Take a look at the above post, which discusses the various alternative shots on large deer. A shoulder-shot might preclude pass-through, but will severely restrict locomotion. If the shot is fore or aft, itís still effective. If itís dead-on, but not immediately lethal, it will increase the chance of a follow-up. Iíve had close-range, 30-06 shots on 180 lb. deer fail to pass through. A pass-throu..

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Re: Groups or Bullseyes ? 20 days ago by Warwick Marflitt Re: Groups or Bullseyes ?

It is also a tool to aid and help improve skill and confidence in becoming familiar and skilled with your Food gathering tool. Such an Implement requires skill thought and understanding. When we don't set benchmarks or have required skills and standards (Bullseyes to aim for). We become vulnerable and open ourselves to ridicule and suspicion from ill informed, uninterested or groups with opposing values and ideals? We become no more that an unfit skill lacking athlete? Who dreams great things wh..

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Re: Modern versus Traditional Technique - a place for both? 26 days ago by Steph Foster Re: Modern versus Traditional Technique - a place for both?

Hi David. This is in regards to both threads you have posted. Technique is a nebulous thing, merely a theory or conceptual idea. Technique is only as effective as it's application. Your talk of bruising on the collar bone tells me that your understanding and application of Nathan's technique may be limited. If you were using the 'traditional' shooting technique correctly, there is no way your collar bone will be bruised - it shouldn't even come into play. What I am getting from your threads is t..

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Re: Stabilization and bedding 1 month ago by Florida Cracker Re: Stabilization and bedding

Rob - I believe there already is a North American distributor. Paul Leverman is a member and I recall a post by him when COVID was really heating up. I found the old post and in it he mentioned that he was distributing under the name Nechako Distributors. I had a few email exchanges with him last year about Nathan's products. I think (?) he is in Canada. As a follow up to my last post to this thread - I checked and West does produce un-thickened GFlex but I'd go with Nathan's goop if you can get..

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Re: Rifle Rotation Roster 2 months ago by Mack Winzenburg Re: Rifle Rotation Roster

Quote:Hi Mark, Yes, it is open season all the time for Himalayan Tahr about 60 miles west of my house on Mount Taylor. You can see the mountain from my back porch. It is the southernmost of the four sacred mountains of the Navajo Indian Tribe. For a topo map of the area go to: http://www.yellowmaps.com/usgs/topomaps/drg24/30p/o35107b5.jpg But . . . The story is that the Laguna Pueblo Indians some years ago fenced off their part of Water Canyon (see topo) and released some Himalayan Tahr with the..

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Re: Nathan's knife is crap, tales from The Adelaide Knife Show 2 months ago by Florida_Cracker Re: Nathan's knife is crap, tales from The Adelaide Knife Show

Warrick - I'm another 'late to the party' responder to your 2019 post but I can't let it go without saying how much I enjoyed your commentary about the knife show - AND the outcome. After reading Nathan's book and saw your knife, I perused your web site. Some mighty fine looking cutlery there. In addition to being late to the post, I'm also new to hunting and trying to learn from the likes of Nathan, you and other frequently appearing names on this forum. I can't contribute anything informative ..

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Re: Latest packs? 2 months ago by Laurence Walkinshaw Re: Latest packs?

Gidday Team, an interesting discussion.. I know its an old thread but ill chuck my 2 cents in. I got into hunting properly about three years ago. My boy scouting days are a little bit behind me now and the gear has a come a long way (not necessarily in the right way) since then. I was somewhat overwhelmed at the selection available when it came to picking out a pack. Straps and tags and elastics, Pockets for Africa, all the bells and whistles. it all looks great in the shop. The Tatonkas are get..

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Modern versus Traditional Technique - a place for both? 3 months ago by David Lenzi Modern versus Traditional Technique - a place for both?

I've got a few of Nathan's books on the shelf and, of course, have read his primer on the subject of marksmanship technique here on the sight. I consider this "Traditional" technique - I say that only for clarification. Modern technique, on the other hand, consists of getting square and straight behind the gun, head up, butt on the collar bone. I wouldn't typically post a link to another forum, but it is a handy reference and I'm damn sure not an expert: https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/thre..

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Re: Invoking Andrew to ask a (gulp) Creedmoor question 4 months ago by Joshua Mayfield Re: Invoking Andrew to ask a (gulp) Creedmoor question

Shamelessly posting a reply so the thread will show in the homepage feed...

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Re: .17 hmr help 4 months ago by Jake Carey Re: .17 hmr help

I had a Ruger .17 that I could not get to shoot, and eventually I realized that in my excitement I had disassembled and cleaned and checked everything except the factory scope rail. Turned out all the screws were about 1/4 of a thread twist too long for the holes. No wonder it had been returned. I shortened them and the groups shrank dramatically. Even the recoil of that little bullet was enough to bang the scope around. Not to insult anyone's intellect, it's just my experience. Afterward it tur..

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Re: Sierra's new TGK (tipped GameKing) LR bullet 4 months ago by Magnus Vassbotn Re: Sierra's new TGK (tipped GameKing) LR bullet

Ahh, yes. Ricochets are much more frequent with monos than cup and core bullets. Something I have experienced several times myself (on rocky, dry ground). But as Scott implies, safe background should be safe regardless of bullet choice. A low velocity lead bullet will ricochet just as much as a high velocity copper. Regardless, If you or your assosiates are uncomfortable with monos, I believe the Partition 140 or the Accubond 140 is a good choice (or Woodleigh PP160). Alternatively Interbond or ..

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Re: The Door 4 months ago by Florida Cracker Re: The Door

Don't normally open the "Other Topics" forum so I didn't know this thread was running. My thinking parallels Bill Badgley - the book is so much more than a story. Highest kudos to Nathan and Steph. Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Sierra's new TGK (tipped GameKing) LR bullet 4 months ago by Magnus Vassbotn Re: Sierra's new TGK (tipped GameKing) LR bullet

Hi Alvaro. First, I haven't read the whole thread here, so maybe I'm just saying things that have already been mentioned here, and maybe I've missed some points about the stoutness of the TGK vs similar bullets. This reply is just my take on your question of bullet selection for your criteria. I haven't tried the TGK (or TMK), but I have shot a lot of various medium game with similar bullets (eld-x, a-max, interlock etc), and would not choose any of those for good penetration at close range from..

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Forum errors with multiple pages 4 months ago by Jonathan Kitterman Forum errors with multiple pages

Is any else having trouble views forum posts with multiple pages? I just tried viewing a few different posts with more than one page. It seems the page buttons and the next button are corrupted with incorrect links. Sierra's new TGK (tipped GameKing) LR bullet in long range hunting and shooting. https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Resources/Discussion+Forums/x_forum/18/thread/17453.html [https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Resources/Discussion+Forums/x_forum/18/thread/17453.html] Page one button has a..

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Re: Howa Bedding 5 months ago by Scott Struif Re: Howa Bedding

Hi, Marty. You cautioned Brandon earlier to be mindful of stock-material compression, even with laminate, which sounded like good advice to me. Pillars would, of course, preclude that problem. I donít use blue Loctite on action screws, but it would certainly prevent the screws moving any. I havenít seen it discussed, relative to action screws, but, in automotive applications, torque-specs are generally given for dry threads, as lubricant on the threads will change the forces being applied, and w..

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Gratuitous suggestion 5 months ago by Scott Struif Gratuitous suggestion

Nathanís recent email to members contained a link to his new Vimeo feed, where he answers random questions posted on this forum, via video responses. I learned about this new feature before todayís email, because he posted a link to it in a forum thread Iíve been following. Iíve been watching some of the videos, and picking up tidbits of info that, if I poured over the books, are probably there. Still, itís worth hearing live. I realized that much of what I had read, and thought I absorbed, was ..

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