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16 Aug 2015
@ 09:12 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

I have been thinking that this would be a good place to share old remedies.

I'll start the ball rolling.

1. We do a bit of barefoot work such as karate training or in the summer, going to the school pool with Riley. This means that we can come in contact with foot diseases. The kids pass these around quite a bit- verruca's are very annoying. The pharmices sell a liquid nitrogen type kit that is bloody useless.

For this, we use typical farm treatment for seedy toe in horses / cattle etc- but in a much smaller dose. Simply rough up the area, then use stokholm tar and a pinch of copper sulphate (blue stone). Rough up the area with a needle etc, then pack with this mixture (about a half pea sized amount). Use a plastter, then 2 layers or elastoplast over this to prevent seeping. Will kill anything in 24 hours. If you have foot pain from a corn, epect that to be gone in 24 hours too.

Am guessing this would kill off a lot of skin legions.

2. Kerosene / Turpentine. When I wrote the accurizing book, I went into intensiove research on the properties of Kerosene as I wanted to undertsand its roles in solvents etc. But what surprised me was its role in health. It is reported to kill blood pathogens more effectively than most other agents. It is able to kill candida hiding within the blood stream and there is anecdotal evidence to support the theory that some internal cancers may be as a result of the body not knowing how to deal with candida within the blood. Steph has tested 1 teaspoon per day for 7 days. Then later- kero in a shot glass, all with with no ill effects. Her father (Polish ancestry) mentioned that this was an old remedy he remembers as once being common. Research shows usage dates back to Egyptian dynasty- so its been around.

I don't recommenced anyone start drinking kerosene / turpentine but I do suggest folk study this subject purely as a point of interest.

Note that modern household kerosene has dyes added (blue) which are harmful. The 4 litre containers (hardware stores) do not have this. Put simply, the colour should be clear to yellowish in appearance.

3. Ginger root. Sliced ginger root (not crushed processed stuff) left to steep as a tea (make sure it has a good kick) is ideal for detoxing and fighting viruses. Our liver has to work very hard, especially with all the junk we eat these days. Ginger also has plenty of nutrients and as a herb, is one of the best. If you do not drink this, you might want to start. Unfortunately, those already on blood thinners (such as the rat poison for stroke victims) will not be able to drink ginger which is a shame.

This is a great evening drink, especially after a hard days labor.

Ginger now for a healthy system or rat poison later?

4. Parsley tea. Crush a handful of parsely and make a strong neo green coloured tea. Mix with mint leaves for flavour if preferred. This is an excellent kidney detox and restorative. Again, our bodies get hammered with modern food and this is a herb of great benefit, even if taken for just one week, every few months.

In our community, we have a man, Kevin McDonald, don't know how to describe him - a white tohunga (medicine man) perhaps, a cancer sniffing dog man? (just kidding). He is highly respected within our community and in some instances has a better track record than local GP's. The ginger and parsley advice are something he continually tries to drive home to people as the very basics for ongoing health. He wrote a book a few years ago, just a short and to the point book called 'Learn to listen' (to your body). There is no bashing in the book- no need to stop drinking coffee or become a vegan etc.

Well, I better get back to writing.

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17 Aug 2015
@ 01:35 am (GMT)

Bob Mavin

Re: Home and alternative remedies
I agree with you on those Nathan. My parents lived in the bush, Dad was a sleeper cutter (split sleepers not sawn) Mum used to make tea with stinging nettle too???

I buy most of our household products from a company that focuses on
health. http://www.modere.com/home/aboutus

Most products available today last longer, look better but we shouldn't even touch them, let alone rub in on or clean our teeth or wash our hair with it.

Cheers
Bob
17 Aug 2015
@ 06:58 am (GMT)

Thomas Kitchen

Re: Home and alternative remedies
great topic Nathan i got to admit the kerosene did raise the eye brew abit thou.

for reflux try abit of lemon juice or apple cider vinegar in water most times reflux is because there's not enough acid to break down the food.

peppermint or peppermint tea good for stomach issues but not if you have reflux issues.

for mental health b vitamins are worth taking specially if your stressed but take them in the morning otherwise you'll have trouble sleeping and weird ass dreams ha ha.

5htp you can get this from most pharmacies its advertised as a sleep help but its very helpful to take a course of it if your going through a low patch.

mainly for pigdogs but any hunting dogs.
carry a tampon or 2 (don't let your mates see it) these are very good if your dog gets poked in the lung as you can insert tampon, it will swell and bung up the whole til you get to the vet.

plastic bags are useful if your dogs stomach gets ripped out as you can keep it clean by inserting it in a plastic bag and taping or tying bag to dog.

meths can be used to harden dog pads if you know your going to be running them hard on forestry tracks for first time in a while.

nail polish on pads can also be helpful to give them a protective layer.

if your dog eats poison while hunting and becomes sick.
force tobacco down its throat making it vomit, then cut couple inches off its tail, put a rope on it and walk it til it comes right, it'll bleed the poison out its tail. i believe you can do similar thing with horses with a cut by there ears.
17 Aug 2015
@ 07:10 am (GMT)

jason

Re: Home and alternative remedies
Far, some out there stuff. But I'm not doubting.
Tabacco with water is an incecticide. Interesting trick though.

Iv just been on the straight whiskey for my flu. Seems to suppress the caughing.
Before this next one... no I havnt started drinking yet tonight.....
My mate tells me a lot of old tokoroa bushman are rubbing crc/wd40 on there old sore joints. Spray on the knees or where ever and rub in. I havnt tried but he was deadly serious and says they swear by it.
17 Aug 2015
@ 08:04 am (GMT)

Cor Nepgen

Re: Home and alternative remedies
Very interesting topic!

Nathan, adding to the ginger..

Add Rooibos tea with a slice of lemon and a wedge of ginger, let is steep for a couple of minutes and add a bit of honey to taste.

Very healthy drink during cold winter nights and packed with nutrients.
17 Aug 2015
@ 09:52 am (GMT)

Ben Law

Re: Home and alternative remedies
got a bad knee, put a grease nipple on it and pump in some grease, works a treat i've heard lmao.

cut a few inches off your dogs tail gave me a laugh
the old wd40 on stiff joints is a goodin too.

not debating it, i just found it funny. thanks guys.
17 Aug 2015
@ 11:20 am (GMT)

Bob Mavin

Re: Home and alternative remedies
You only get one shot at life,. your only as good as what you eat. It amazes me, people get a dog or goldfish then study up on what the best to feed it but don't make the effort to find out what's the best for themselves.

Check out Mike willese, they recently showed it on TV, he was almost dead, they changed his diet and bought him back.

TV advertising has got us brain washed to eat processed shit that's not fit for human consumption.

Hey!!! A bit more grape juice please!!!
17 Aug 2015
@ 08:49 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Home and alternative remedies

Rooibos tea eh Cor. Bloody Afrikaaners. Can't go anywhere without rooibos and Mrs Balls Chutney (sorry, have to spread the love).

I haven't had red bush tea for a few years now. Might try this.

Thomas, kero is a base ingredient in WD40.

18 Aug 2015
@ 07:20 am (GMT)

Thomas Kitchen

Re: Home and alternative remedies
i fully understand where your coming from Nathan but i can assure you we are not all mongrel bastards and some do our best to avoid unnecessary pain as much as that doesn't sound possible.

that's a plus one for red bush tea.

that's interesting as my wife's uncle runs a charter boat, one of his clients sweard by using wd40 on his gout.

my old land lord use to use echinacea for colds, few drops in warm water with lemon i have tried it few times and it helps.

think bob summed it up nicely less processed shit is the answer, if by looking at something you can't tell whats in it can you really expect your body to process it. not exactly rocket science why peoples health improve on things like the paleo diet

18 Aug 2015
@ 07:49 am (GMT)

Mike Davis

Re: Home and alternative remedies
Im not a huge fan of some of the "whitch doctory crap" out there homopathetic it could be called........
rooiboos/red bush tea with spoon of honey every night for this Kiwi
the echinacea is great for bruising etc too and comfry leaves as a tea is plurry awesome for healing bones...the old folk called it knitbone for a reason.
gout is a real pain I take a goutease pill and vitamin b5 each day and it leaves me alone now...just as well as I cant live without red meat..or beer LMAO.
Nathan have a read of Bill Westwoods book on pig dog training......that man knows his shit and thinks along lines even I can follow, back when we had farm in king country we stopped the holder packs and still had pigs whereas most other farms had stuff all, go the mighty bailer with eyedogs being my favourite of all.
my work mates give me shit about my diet but most fellas still get left behind on the hill.
found a great recipy in hunting mag recently for water on the hill...poweraid and the like all sugar and crap besides they cost $$$$$$$
this is great and I dont get cramp etc anymore
I will dig out recipy if anyone wants it.
18 Aug 2015
@ 03:46 pm (GMT)

Francis Saunders

Re: Home and alternative remedies
I use glucosamine for my joints.
Bring a bathroom fitter you spend a lot of time on your knees and this helps.

When I was on a trip in Kenya I came down with one of those tickle cough colds.
The house cook told me to put some raw turmeric under my tongue, telling me when every I felt the need to cough bit down on this.
Then put it back under your tongue, woke the next morning all gone. Very yellow teeth.
Did some research and found that it was a natural inflammatory. So I now take this along with the Glucosamine.

Also vitamin B and garlic to help keep the mosquitoes at bay.

But the best was Artenam!!
This is an old Asian remedy.
I had a currier on my truck that was given this after contracting cerebra malaria.
Remember Malaria kills very quickly and can be misdiagnosed as something else.
Luckily I got her to a good hospital in Dar on time but it was still touch and go.

Yet if you are going to a Malaria zone you have great trouble in buying this.
Doxycycline will make your skin sensitive to the sun?? Africa no sun there???
Lariam now called mefloquine, was made as an anti depressant. Which can give you some pretty weird dreams or worse if you suffer from depression.

Last of all I add Lemon grass to my raw root Ginger tea. The lemon grass needs to be a purple colour on the steam to be fresh, then chop like spring onions, grate the ginger root add the lot to a pot and bring to the boil. As you have already mentioned its really good.

18 Aug 2015
@ 03:49 pm (GMT)

Francis Saunders

Re: Home and alternative remedies
Sorry that was ment to be courier!! She looked after the passengers.. I just looked after the truck.
18 Aug 2015
@ 07:45 pm (GMT)

Cor Nepgen

Re: Home and alternative remedies
Thanks for the laugh Nathan, yes red bush tea and Mrs balls are indeed necessary for civilized life.. (As well as good coffee…).

Something I use fairly often, for relaxing muscle aches is a warm bath in Epsom Salts. I usually add some essential oils of Eucalyptus and Tea tree as well.

I know this sounds a bit feminine and I had a good laugh when I was given the advice but it works too well to ignore. I train Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu about 4 to 5 times a week (as work allows). After more than a weeks worth of intense training, recovery slows down and muscle fatigue sets in.

Magnesium is one of the trace elements playing quite an important role in muscle recovery, growth and a couple of other things like flexibility sleep etc.

Magnesium is also better absorbed through he skin than internally (food supplements etc). You can buy a fancy magnesium spray but epsom salts are cheap and does the trick.

Just be careful in adding too much, two heaped table spoons should be enough. If the salt content it too high, it will draw water from the skin causing dehydration if done too long. (Fighters use this as a method to cut weight without stressing the body too much.)

Also, I agree completely on the healthy diet part. Everything adds up and small changes adds up. Using fresh herbs has many, many benefits and generally improves health.
18 Aug 2015
@ 08:38 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Home and alternative remedies
Steph uses tumeric quite a bit, tells me its a super food so it ends up mixed in everything and you can barely taste it anyway.

I find recovery from martial arts training to be slow in the winter. I am carrying quite a few injuries at present, put my back out when throwing an opponent (must be getting too old huh). I went to the chiro, he was good but wrenched shit out of me. Went to the Osteo, not really my thing sorry. Went to the Chinese, they beat the shit out of me and I am feeling much better each week. So for now, I will stick with our New Plymouth version of Jet Li , traditional Chinese massage or in western lingo, the torture table. I have been meaning to post about this for a while. I know western men don't feel comfortable with massage from another man. My mother pushed me into this when we were in Auckland earlier this year. I cannot emphasize how beneficial this has been. I see so many mates aching from hard labor but are too timid to go and get a good hiding from our local Asian services. This to me is a cultural exchange at its best.

I broke my thumb last year. I have quite a few breaks from the wrist forwards from my previous employment. The doc wanted to put me in a cast but we crushed up comfrey (knit bone) leaves into a poultice with arnica, packed my hand in cling film, then put the hand and arm into a splint. Changed every day for 6 weeks. It has taken a while but I have seen full recovery without pins or screws.

You know as this thread goes on, we could compile quite a list of tricks.

Magnesium salts are expensive locally. Will have a look around when next in the city.

As for nettle, I took some video footage of this a while back. Need to splice it with some other footage and post a new youtube vid. Hell its hard to find the time to fit all of this in. I will be so relieved once this final book is out the door.
18 Aug 2015
@ 09:06 pm (GMT)

jason

Re: Home and alternative remedies
I get the Thai massage. Been getting them for years. I like mine hard to do anything worth while. I would find a good European and stick to her. But Thai is much better.
The Europeans just don't have the technique. It's much the same but the Thai ladies know there small and light weight and I'm a full size man. So they use elbows, knees, standing. Body weight etc. Where as the Europeans just battle away with there hands mostly.
Iv never had a European lady get on the table with me.
One of the last moves she does is sit up on the table reach back and grab her hands. She puts her feet in your back and pulls your arms and pushes with her legs. It's just what's needed to break down a man's tight muscles. I don't go to ciro any more.
18 Aug 2015
@ 09:15 pm (GMT)

Francis Saunders

Re: Home and alternative remedies
Yes you need to add that after shave you used to use to the list....
what was it Hoppes Youngs?
Sweets.....!!! That should clear out those sinus troubles.

Have you tryed dock leaves rapped in newspaper and put in the microwave for five minutes.

Its meant to diminish bruising. I know that it works a treat on sting nettle.

Just for those whom get the wrok end of the stuff while picking it for your soup.

The romans used to rub it on them selves when they where cold.




18 Aug 2015
@ 09:19 pm (GMT)

Francis Saunders

Re: Home and alternative remedies
Sorry was ment to say that its a natural anti inflammatory

When I was on a trip in Kenya I came down with one of those tickle cough colds.
The house cook told me to put some raw turmeric under my tongue, telling me when every I felt the need to cough bit down on this.
Then put it back under your tongue, woke the next morning all gone. Very yellow teeth.
Did some research and found that it was a natural anti inflammatory
18 Aug 2015
@ 09:30 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Home and alternative remedies
You've done it now Cor.

Quoting Steph.....

"See, see, I told you that you need to bath in epsom salts".
18 Aug 2015
@ 09:32 pm (GMT)

Steph Foster

Re: Home and alternative remedies
You have to use scented candles and rose petals to get the full effect LOL.

Steph.
18 Aug 2015
@ 09:58 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Home and alternative remedies
Sounds like a good hard core massage Jason.

Not sure if my Youngs or Hoppes aftershave was so good in hindsight Francis. But then again, I am pretty sure Youngs base is Stockholm tar (pine tar). Good on the feet perhaps. Oh dear.
18 Aug 2015
@ 10:04 pm (GMT)

Martin Taylor

Re: Home and alternative remedies
I can vouch for the NZ stinging nettles not the pissy Euro ones, big angry looking bloody things................Think needle sized.

Nathan had great fun stabbing them into my knuckle joints to help with the tightness/pain in my hand and elbow.

And l have to say it did help!
18 Aug 2015
@ 11:26 pm (GMT)

Francis Saunders

Re: Home and alternative remedies
Quote:
I can vouch for the NZ stinging nettles not the pissy Euro ones, big angry looking bloody things................Think needle sized.

Nathan had great fun stabbing them into my knuckle joints to help with the tightness/pain in my hand and elbow.

And l have to say it did help!


I never ran into the NZ ones when home. they sound like fun.
First time I saw them in the UK I thought it was mint.....bugger wrong again.
19 Aug 2015
@ 05:01 am (GMT)

Thomas Kitchen

Re: Home and alternative remedies
i use go to bowen for back issues.

i was the same always at the ostepath as my back would pop out i would get it put back in wait a while then do something stupid and it would pop back out again.
anyway my sister gave me a number of this lady to go see as she did bowen, well bugger me it sorted it, i get a sore back about once a year or two so i just go off to bowen again and its right again for a while.

there's two different lines bowen therapy and bowen technology.
my local guy is a bowtech one he's very good and got his masters in it does it part time from a room in his house(most bowen's have the same kinder set up) really know's his stuff but is bit more gentle.

ill probably got back to the bowen therapist i have used in the past as he gets right in there solves the problem even if it feels like you have been run over afterwards.

im not 100% how it works it kinder get the connection with your muscle that something wrong and they solve the issue or a service for your body.
the advantage is if they do it on a muscle and it doesn't need it nothing happens but if you need it you feel a ping and a massive release. afterwards you get that feeling like you have just carried an animal a long way and taken it off your back, kinder tired but floaty.
not everyone likes it but its worth ago, there's things they can try to help with asthma, reflux and few other things you wouldn't think they could do.
19 Aug 2015
@ 05:06 am (GMT)

Thomas Kitchen

Re: Home and alternative remedies
oh and agree with epsom salts i just need a longer lengthed bath so half of me doesn't end up cold at a time

if you find you can get tickled easily and bit jumpy/hard to settle its normally a sign your low in magnesium
19 Aug 2015
@ 08:39 am (GMT)

Cor Nepgen

Re: Home and alternative remedies
Thanks for the laugh, and yes I think Steph has a point.. What good is a salt bath without some candles.. haha
20 Aug 2015
@ 08:10 am (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: Home and alternative remedies
Great posts everyone believers and non!
Vegitables wash and then cook them in the skin without cutting in half or trimming the ends off do that once cooked. Honestly they taste 5 times better. I steam mine it keeps all the goodness inside. Try steaming whole Mushrooms dont peel them the skins full of goodness. I eat the skin and all on most vegies. Roast Onions in there skins and squash the insides out of the skin once cooked SWEET AS.
I figure that as I am an animal like every other Mammal on the Planet? So I eat natural. No I dont take my clothes off for dinner you sick puppies!
I love getting a pot of Margerine and a block of butter and inviting people to read the ingredients? 100% butter salt milk solids. I cant pronounce let alone spell whats in the Chemical soup !!!!!!
Have a flemmy cough! Get an Onion peel it and slice very fine into rings place into a bowl and sprinkle with brown or raw sugar white if its all you have. Cover with lid, cling film or Glad wrap. Let it stand for an hour or longer. A clear sweet juice will collect in the bowl. Get a teaspoon and drink some of the liquid. it breaks up the flem. (I want to try this using Honey?)
On a hot day when you feel that swetty flush and your skin feels sticky and hot STOP and have a BIG DRINK OF WATER! In 10 minutes you'll feel heaps better alert and fresh even in 52degs of West African heat. BTDT.
Take care everyone Work smarter not harder.
I know of oldies who rub Vicks on the soles of feet and some who used to eat it???? Yuck!
I'll say it first RAWLEIGHES Ointment!
Also if everything we used to do was so wrong and dangerous How come we aint exstinct?
Ask your local anal safety orifficer to answer that? Imagine them doing a JSA( Job Safety Assessment) For Storming the beaches of Normandy on D day WWII?
 

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