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Home and alternative remedies

16 Aug 2015
@ 09:12 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

I have been thinking that this would be a good place to share old remedies.

I'll start the ball rolling.

1. We do a bit of barefoot work such as karate training or in the summer, going to the school pool with Riley. This means that we can come in contact with foot diseases. The kids pass these around quite a bit- verruca's are very annoying. The pharmices sell a liquid nitrogen type kit that is bloody useless.

For this, we use typical farm treatment for seedy toe in horses / cattle etc- but in a much smaller dose. Simply rough up the area, then use stokholm tar and a pinch of copper sulphate (blue stone). Rough up the area with a needle etc, then pack with this mixture (about a half pea sized amount). Use a plastter, then 2 layers or elastoplast over this to prevent seeping. Will kill anything in 24 hours. If you have foot pain from a corn, epect that to be gone in 24 hours too.

Am guessing this would kill off a lot of skin legions.

2. Kerosene / Turpentine. When I wrote the accurizing book, I went into intensiove research on the properties of Kerosene as I wanted to understand its roles in solvents etc. But what surprised me was its historic role in health. It was reported to kill blood pathogens more effectively than most other agents (though some evidence would be useful). It is said to be able to kill candida hiding within the blood stream and there is anecdotal evidence to support the theory that some internal cancers may be as a result of the body not knowing how to deal with candida within the blood. When discussing this odd curative with Steph's family, her father (Polish ancestry) mentioned that this was an old remedy he remembers as once being common. Following this, Steph tested 1 teaspoon per day for 7 days. Then later- kero in a shot glass, all with with no ill effects. Research shows usage dates back to Egyptian dynasty- so its been around. Still, there is no solid evidence for benefits and it may be a load of hoopla. Kudos to Steph for trying the old family remedy but talk about risky business. I cannot suggest this as a remedy but merely an experiment of Steph's with Polish folk medicine.

Note that modern household kerosene has dyes added (blue) which are harmful. The 4 litre containers (hardware stores) do not have this.

(Update 5 years later - I have have had two major pathogenic infections since I shared the above and even when face planted in a state of semi consciousness, my thoughts towards Kero were - not bloody likely. About all I will admit is that during my time working with stainless polishing, I took in a great deal of airborne kero and to be sure, there were no ill effects. But still...).

3. Ginger root. Sliced ginger root (not crushed processed stuff) left to steep as a tea (make sure it has a good kick) is ideal for detoxing and fighting viruses. Our liver has to work very hard, especially with all the junk we eat these days. Ginger also has plenty of nutrients and as a herb, is one of the best. If you do not drink this, you might want to start. Unfortunately, those already on blood thinners (such as the rat poison for stroke victims) will not be able to drink ginger which is a shame.

This is a great evening drink, especially after a hard days labor.

Ginger now for a healthy system or rat poison later?

4. Parsley tea. Crush a handful of parsely and make a strong neo green coloured tea. Mix with mint leaves for flavour if preferred. This is an excellent kidney detox and restorative. Again, our bodies get hammered with modern food and this is a herb of great benefit, even if taken for just one week, every few months.

In our community, we have a man, Kevin McDonald, don't know how to describe him - a white tohunga (medicine man) perhaps, a cancer sniffing dog man? (just kidding). He is highly respected within our community and in some instances has a better track record than local GP's. The ginger and parsley advice are something he continually tries to drive home to people as the very basics for ongoing health. He wrote a book a few years ago, just a short and to the point book called 'Learn to listen' (to your body). There is no bashing in the book- no need to stop drinking coffee or become a vegan etc.

Well, I better get back to writing.

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20 Aug 2015
@ 08:53 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Home and alternative remedies
I have used Vicks too Warwick. There have been years when I have run hunts back to back for months at a time whiule also doing possum work- really hard on the feet. The Vicks helps keep your feet fresh. But of late, I have gone back to regular foot powder and or Chinese green oil (which is a bit like Vicks).
01 Sep 2015
@ 08:25 am (GMT)

Rob Kennedy

Re: Home and alternative remedies
Re. the kerosene ("paraffin" in the UK and some other countries) here is a good article on it. Includes the story about an Austrian woman who the doctors told her she had only a few days to live (cancer everywhere). She began drinking some kero, recovered and 11 months later had a baby born to her. I guess she became very healthy.
http://www.health-science-spirit.com/kero.htm
It used to be listed on the German pharmacopoeia but was removed and declared a deadly poison - the power of 'Big Pharma'.

Jim Humble of MMS fame has a lot of info on how Sodium Chlorite mixed with a mild acid cures most things. A local Red Cross successful test on curing people of Malaria in Africa with it was squashed but the video is on You Tube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrwZN1cPfX8

Pat Coleby, a lady who has written books on animal health care, has used Vitamin C to save animals from snake bite. There's a vet in California who has done the same. Look up this link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTXSTGGRvKY about Alan Smith in NZ brought back from the point of his life support turned off by intravenous Vitamin C.

Here's health!!

02 Sep 2015
@ 05:50 am (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Home and alternative remedies
Just be a bit careful with the Jim Humble stuff. If you have a close look at his book (we have read it), you will see that many photos are poorly photo shopped. Look and you will see that he has inserted pics of himself in West Africa. Should be quite obvious when you have a look.

Another one: Manuka honey is good for wounds. Most kiwi folk know this now. I notice our vets are packing animal wounds with it locally. Promotes very fast healing. But we also use a slight mod, mash up a bit of comfrey leaf in a mortar and pestle and then mix with the honey.

One more, and I am slightly ashamed as it was a life for a life. Steph's horse damaged its leg a few years back, ran into wire during a storm, tore the skin to the bone. Stitches never took, looked like it was going to de-glove, the bone was bare. I did a pile of research (its me after all), then called Massey (like an NZ Harvard Uni) and got the go ahead for my plan. This involved shooting a nanny goat, racing home, cutting out the amniotic sack and using this as a heretic graft (I think heretic is the correct word for inter species). This caused the bone to florette new flesh, actually worked as a dressing rather than a true graft. We ditched the graft dressing at 48 hours, then into the honey and comfrey. As usual, the rest of the goat was used, nothing wasted. The horse recovered, all is well that ends well except that the horse now bleats (no, not really).

If anyone ends up in a similar predicament with a horse etc. feel free to get in touch with Steph. She documented everything.

Speaking of bleating, pet day coming again soon (a yearly rural school thing). Riley has a rather self confident lamb, thinks it owns the place. I body slammed it on the bed yesterday after it discovered the joys of jumping on the bed. We went a few rounds full on WWF but sadly with the odd cootchy coo and raspberry when no was looking. They say one good turn deserves another and fully understanding the concept of shit rolling downhill, the lamb proceeded to give the cat a good dusting. Another day in the Foster household.
02 Sep 2015
@ 06:35 am (GMT)

Mike Davis

Re: Home and alternative remedies
Im getting worried about you Nathan.....surely hope you werent wearing your red band gummies at the time...lamb on the bed!!!!!!! what ever next


we have Arapawas ,Gotlands and mongrels what a circus rounding them up. SWMBO has one lamb at home as it wasnt going to make it with its mum, a real hard case it is too, but it doesnt get up on the beds!!!!!
chases the dogs around the yard looking for a feed,its going to have issues when its older we were cooking roast of mutton the other day and she went and stood by the oven to keep warm.....LMAO
02 Sep 2015
@ 06:44 am (GMT)

Bob Mavin

Re: Home and alternative remedies
Wait till the dicktaker err dictator reads this!!!
02 Sep 2015
@ 07:07 am (GMT)

Thomas Kitchen

Re: Home and alternative remedies
lamb on a bed ha ha i don't even like my wives cat on our bed.
hmm if you ever build a new house Nathan i wonder what the rules will be then with the animals.

that goat for horse is really interesting.

on the honey note im married to a nurse, manuka honey is very common in all kind of wound care now which is good to see.
02 Sep 2015
@ 07:32 am (GMT)

Bob Mavin

Re: Home and alternative remedies
As a kid, I can remember Dad collecting native bee honey ( tiny little bee's) and selling it to the chemist.

I think Nathan was throwing that lamb on a bed of coals. It won't stay there if you don't tie it up!!!
09 Sep 2015
@ 11:34 am (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: Home and alternative remedies
A philosopher said, “I cannot teach anybody anything. I can only make them think.” A good portion of the world population have been programmed to consume foods that don’t nourish, buy things they don’t need, and live without questioning the meaning of life. It seem enough to be normal where the standards of normal is get a job, pay the bills, get married and have kids, watch TV, obey the law and save for old age or hope there is a pension for survival. How can more percentage of the world population embody their unlimited potentials if they follow ways that seek to restrict freedom and potentials? Do you always need to get freedom to progress so that it can be embraced as freedom? How can one expect to reasonably sustain their progress IF they continue to follow a path that lead to destruction? Is live worth more living or surviving??

Interesting ha?
11 Sep 2015
@ 04:19 am (GMT)

Dan Keene

Re: Home and alternative remedies
All very interesting stuff!
How about probiotics? Lots of stuff in medical research at the moment about the state of the bacterial population in your stomach. About 6lbs of bacteria in a normal stomach!
So us being hunters and all, not wanting to take the probiotic pills from the pharmacy we can get ours like the Hazda tribe do in Africa. - The following quote is from the website Marks Daily Apple.

The largest acute exposures to exogenous bacteria occur when the Hadza make a kill. To wash off the blood and bits of viscera caked on their hands, they use fistfuls of partially-digested plant matter from the still-warm guts as hand scrubbers. Not soap and water. Not hand sanitizer. Stomach sauerkraut teeming with microbes.

Then, they slice the raw stomach into bite-size pieces and eat it on the spot. No cooking, no parboiling to remove contaminants. Straight up stomach sashimi.

And finally, after removing as much fecal matter from the colon as possible, they toss it on open flames to cook for a few minutes. Charred on the outside but mostly raw along the bacteria-rich inner walls, the colon is sliced and served. That’s a literal megadose of colonic bacteria.

Cant wait to try this on my next hunt!!
Cheers, Dan.
11 Sep 2015
@ 03:23 pm (GMT)

A vilavella

Re: Home and alternative remedies
Interesting subject.

I would like to point out some of the benefits of Castor Oil.

Castor Oil is an efficient anti-inflammatory and has been working great in my knees and shoulders. It is a thick oil so it might be wise to warm up the area with a rice bag or hot towel and then rub well and long to make sure the large molecules go inside.
Also might want to use an old t-shirt, clothing or wrap with something so you don't stain your normal clothing or bed sheets.
The oil doesn't work right away. One might start feeling the benefits after a couple of days but even chronic swelling and pain might go down noticeably.
This was very popular in ancient times as medieval warriors who were rubbed all over after battle. This was both soothing and therapeutic.
Castor oil has many other uses but I found this one to be effective
and with little risk for reactions.

Just make sure you don't use commercial castor oil from the convenience stores and find a source of natural good quality oil like sold in some
organic products and natural remedies store.

Cheers.
E.





11 Sep 2015
@ 08:14 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Home and alternative remedies
Hey Dan, years ago I had an Indian client who would take the stomachs of goats. I had forgotten about this. The rumens were destined for pan frying so I doubt anything would have survived. I have yet to try it.

I always believed that the protozoa in the rumen were only of use to ruminating animals. I never thought any further than that.


Riley gets exposed to plenty of bacteria in the field. Here she is collecting up offal.


15 Jul 2020
@ 08:40 pm (GMT)

Olly Agbebi

Re: Home and alternative remedies
Hi all, I know I’m a bit late to the party on this one but during lock down I’ve been getting back into weights and being an old geezer I’m paying the price with a few aches and pains. I came across this thread and wanted to know a bit more

I’d like to find out about preparing and using ginger and Tumeric with black pepper, specifically how you prepare it, how much you take and how you take it.

TIA
16 Jul 2020
@ 07:28 am (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Home and alternative remedies
Hi Olly, there are currently health store preparations which utilize powdered tumeric, ginger and black pepper in a large vege cap. There is no major processing other than drying and grinding. Personally, I find this too harsh for my system.

You can if you want to, purchase the vege caps from a health shop, then mix your own. You could start with a tablespoon of ginger powder, a tablespoon of tumeric and perhaps a tea spoon of pepper, then using a folded sheet of paper, decant these into the vege caps.

But always remember, fresh is best. If you take a 1 inch cube of ginger root and slice it up along with a root of tumeric, the roots can be steeped in a tea pot for an hour or two, then used as a concentrate for the rest of the day. You will find this most relaxing in the evening. I do not use pepper in this prep, though one can take a shot of for example cayenne or black pepper via a quarter tea spoon mixed with water in a shot glass.

Also very important is our poor attitude in the west toward massage. It relaxes not just the body but also the mind. As Musashi said, the mind leads, the body follows. When the mind is relaxed, the body will follow. Monkeys groom for more reasons than to simply remove parasites or debris. I cannot frame the importance of massage into words so I will say no more other than to mention that the deep tissue style is the key, not this new age barely touching nonsense.

A magnesium salt bath can also be very helpful.
17 Jul 2020
@ 06:56 am (GMT)

Olly Agbebi

Re: Home and alternative remedies
Nathan, many thanks for the info, its really appreciated.

Fresh is indeed what I’m interested in, its all readily available here. I just don’t have a clue as to how to utilise it so I have a few more questions. Think of it as giving me a “ginger & tumeric for dummies” lesson.

With regard to the ginger & tumeric roots do I combine them in equal amounts i.e. 1 inch of each?

How much water would you recommend I use to steep an inch of both ginger & tumeric in? As you’ve mentioned a teapot I’m guessing 500ml

After it’s had time to steep do I drink the concentrate as it is or do I need to dilute it to taste? If so what’s a good mix, 50/50, or just dilute it to taste?

What sort of dose do you consume it in, a tea cup’s worth?

And are there any side effects to drinking it such as a couple of cups before bed time causing sleeplessness etc.?

Last question, have you got any recommendations for some thing that helps one get a good nights sleep. I’m not getting a lot at the moment and its wearing me out.

TIA
17 Jul 2020
@ 09:18 am (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Home and alternative remedies
Hi Olly, you will find that there is only so much kick you can handle from ginger. The amount of water and steep time will cause a variation in results. But you can determine consistency via the strength (kick) of the brew. There is a point where the steeped brew is simply too strong to drink.

Just as an example, if you steep a 1 to 2 inch sliced root of ginger in 400 to 500ml (two cups for two people) at say 7pm, then drink about a half hour later (if you can keep it warm / hot) the brew will be strong enough. But if you were to make this same brew at say 3pm and let it steep, it would form a concentrate and then you will find that after dinner, you will want to pour a third of the concentrate into a cup and fill the rest with hot water.

Really, you just want to take this to the point that you can really feel the kick. You'll know when its too strong because it takes your breath away.

Tumeric is a little root like a skinny yam. You can put an entire sliced root into the brew unless the flavor is too over powering for you.

A side effect of ginger is blood thinning (cannot be taken by patients on blood thinners - though ginger is probably better than meds). Ginger also potentiates other substances (which can be a good thing regarding nutrient uptake etc).

Use Valerian tincture to help you sleep. Also poppy tincture.

It might also be good for you to consider meditation before or after dinner. But not the typical visualization type now so common. You may benefit from a more traditional style meditation in which you focus on emptying the mind and detaching from the incoming thoughts. I think you might enjoy doing this outside, bare feet and you may even want to do this eyes open so that you are not giving your imagination too much freedom. Suggest simply focusing on the breath (listen to it) and situational awareness including physical sensations (hence bare feet, outside etc). Thoughts will come, but as they come, gently let them pass without attaching to them and trying to 'fix' things. Nothing to fix, nothing to achieve. Bring your focus back to awareness of the moment, sound of the breath, the sensations. So basically it is an act of letting go. This may help provide some fluidity when you go to bed, so that you can detach from projects and shift into more creative thought flows.

Wireless Sleep phones are also great if you are having a hard time of it. I know many folk worry about batteries and magnetic fields but the little sheepies can really help if you are working intensive projects.

https://www.sleepphones.com/products/sleepphones/wireless-headband-headphones?gclid=Cj0KCQjw9b_4BRCMARIsADMUIyqwHRqrHegxa6xdJhFD0mtNuUV_AOBkDiz0KrDDJXMXQwpjgj-cFsoaAmWKEALw_wcB
17 Jul 2020
@ 05:52 pm (GMT)

Olly Agbebi

Re: Home and alternative remedies
Nathan that’s fantastic info, many thanks. I’m looking forward to trying it out
I haven’t seen turmeric in root form but then I haven’t been actively looking for it. I'm sure it'll be available

Thanks for the other pointers as well, I’ll look into them
17 Jul 2020
@ 06:51 pm (GMT)

John D. Hays - New Mexico

Re: Home and alternative remedies

Here is a VERY interesting article on the role of Vitamin D on the immune system. Kind of technical and jargon-ish, but with some specific recommendations.

Immunologic Effects of Vitamin D on Human Health and Disease

https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/12/7/2097/htm

So, for ju-ju against COVID-19 infection, since March I have been taking Quercetin (as a Zinc ionophore), Zinc and Vitamin D3.

The Quercetin takes the place of the Hydroxychloroquine which also functions as a Zinc ionophore, but is cheaper and has no known side-effects and less hassle from the anti-Trumpers.

The Zinc I take as part of one of those eye-health pills with Lutein and high vitamin C, etc. Seems to have improved my eyesight a bit anyway.

The Vitamin D3 is about 2000 IU a day, sometimes 3000 IU if I remember to take another at lunch.

If you are interested in this in-vitro/in-vivo application of Zinc to inhibit RNA replication and transcription by viruses you might have a listen to MedCram 71 (starting at 0:50) on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZq-K1wpur8&t=2s
17 Jul 2020
@ 07:01 pm (GMT)

John D. Hays - New Mexico

Re: Home and alternative remedies

Oh, I forgot to mention that in Chile they will take salt and toast it in a hot skillet until lightly browned, cool it, then put it under your tongue to dissolve. It seems to temporarily calm a cough. Worked for me several times.

Then in Romania, they will take cabbage leaves and lay them on injured joints, wrapping it firmly with a bandage or cloth overnight. This also seems to work quite well, temporarily.

So far I have been married to a Chilean gal and now a Romanian. I'm not sure if I will be able to further my experiences of inter-cultural folk cures. I think my Romanian wife would discourage it.
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