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Inherent accuracy?

27 Jun 2021
@ 07:12 am (GMT)

Scott Struif

I frequently run across the claim that such-and-such a cartridge is “inherently accurate.” This implies that its SAAMI specs - the design of the cartridge coupled with that of its chamber - is an infallible combination that, absent shooter and gun variables, results in groups that are better than other cartridges. A recent gun-rag article states that two recent cartridges are inherently accurate because “freebore slop” is minimized. Freebore is commonly-defined as the area between the end of the cartridge-neck and the beginning of the leade, while “throat” refers to the area between the end of the cartridge-neck and the point where the leade tapers to the diameter of the rest of the bore. The article suggests that minimizing freebore diameter somehow aligns the bullet with the leade, and thus the bore, giving accuracy superior to cartridges of yore. I’m skeptical of the claim because, as its name implies, “freebore” is an area which the bullet shouldn’t touch. The bullet should be driven into the leade, and thus the lands, while exiting the neck, without contacting the freebore area. I suppose if you have a bullet that “space-walks” in a long throat, tight freebore diameter might come into play. But that would assume the concentricity of the bullet was cattywampus.

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27 Jun 2021
@ 08:24 am (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Inherent accuracy?
Hi Scott, yes, that's a bit of a how long is a piece of string question. When we designed the FMR reamers, we utilized dimensions that would help to enhance accuracy. The chamber designs could be considered inherently accurate (compared to loose spec chambers) but other factors such as bedding, load development (you mentioned concentricity) and shooter skill are huge variables which may completely offset any potential gains.

One could also for example, also state that the 6.5 Grendal is more inherently accurate than the .260, simply because it is so mild that it produces a low level of harmonics with regards to both the barrel and bedding platform (and shooter ability). There are quite a few modern reduced power cartridges which fall into this category.

Finally, the dimensions given to or nominated by SAAMI are not a single set of numbers but are instead a tolerance range. Each manufacturer has to make their own decision as to the exact specs they would like to build into their rifles. This subject is no where near as clear cut and dry and most believe it to be.

It is good to be skeptical, as you have inferred, some consideration has to be given to how the chamber will handle pressure via the freebore. However, you indicated that the author mentioned minimizing 'slop' which is not the same as eliminating it. All other factors aside, there may be validity to his claims. I guess it just depends on how he framed it.

I can certainly understand where you are coming from.
28 Jun 2021
@ 02:28 am (GMT)

Scott Struif

Re: Inherent accuracy?
Thanks, Nathan. The article was your typical, manufacturer-sponsored new product review scenario: manufacturer invites gun-writer hunting, loans him a rifle, supplies the ammo, guide, etc. The manufacturer was Winchester, promoting their new 6.8 Western. The writer said the freebore diameter clearance was the same as that of the 6.5 CM, so of course it’s inherently accurate. I reread your FM Reamers PDF prior to this post. I knew throat length was a big issue, especially with long bullets in older cartridges. I knew also, from other writings of yours, that some cartridges are designed to enhance MV via gas build-up in the chamber (.308, RUMs, Weatherby mags, etc.). But I’d never run across the idea that tight freebore diameter enhances accuracy.
28 Jun 2021
@ 08:32 am (GMT)

Lane Salvato

Re: Inherent accuracy?
Another thing that manufacturers never seen to get right is that they put out these "inherently accurate" rifles and cartridges and then load short, stumpy bullets, light weight for caliber, and then mildly load the overall cartridge. We as hunters rather than shooters have to come up with our own loads with heavy bullets, proper charges, etc.

I get that they can't go extremely hot on every load that they make for a variety of reasons but I wish that they would load more heavy for caliber bullets and pay attention to how hot they load them. I think that's a case of lawyers coming up with loads instead of engineers.
28 Jun 2021
@ 01:35 pm (GMT)

Frank Vallich

Re: Inherent accuracy?
Am I interpreting this correctly? A heavy barrel reduces harmonic influence on targeting. A longer bullet may improve accuracy.
I will state as fact:
Firing .308 168 gr. cartridges through a 26 inch heavy barrel the Z max 1.2 inch, Berger hybrid 1.287 inch and Barnes 1.46 inch length bullet with all three cartridges the same COAL align vertically on a target at 100 yards with Z max 2 inches above centre, Berger 1 inch above and the Barnes centered on target.
Reasonable outcome I'm accepting.
Insert the Hornady ELD X 178 gr. With the identical COAL and bullet length of 1.42 strikes 3 inch high and 1.5 inch to the right. Consistently. Harmonic variance due to slower powder? 2600 fps for ELD X and 2700 fps for the 168s.
Same rifle and decrease the COAL using a 165 Sirocco or a 180 Federal 180 gr. Bonded tip and the result is possibly at best 1.5 MOA.

Cartridge length appears to be the common denominator for accuracy. Once the ELD X is dialed in to centre targeting in consistent.

Is it free bore reduction? Is it proximity to barrel leade? Is it less harmonics of the barrel?

Interesting topic!

29 Jun 2021
@ 05:31 am (GMT)

Scott Struif

Re: Inherent accuracy?
Lane, Hornady is the only big company that markets hot loads. There are a couple smaller ones . . . Buffalo Bore and HSM, if I remember right.

Frank, sounds like you’ve put a lot of effort into that rifle . . . possibly a custom build . . and found 3 loads that cover the distance spectrum. Good work! Your conclusion that COAL is the common denominator seems sound. It would be interesting to know if the Sirocco or Federal bullets performed better at the same COAL as the others. But sheesh, you can use the Barnes for close-in work, the Berger for long-range, or the ELD X for both. I’d call it a day, unless academic curiosity drives your quest forward.

My original post had more to do with the technical concept of freebore diameter. I recall now that the article stated that the gun maker (FN), working with the tight freebore diameter of the 6.8 Western, supposedly stated to Winchester that the QA involved in gauging the finished chambers imposed extra work for them, and they consequently lamented the good ol’ days when they were cutting .308 chambers without such painstaking attention to detail.

When you consider the amount of time and effort that end-users like us put into trying to get production rifles with spaciously-cut cambers to shoot well, you can see the benefit of the FM Reamers. As Nathan stated, there’s no silver bullet for accuracy . . . there are too many variables. But he and Dave Manson obviously thought the the chamber was a technical area, out of consumers’ control, with room for improvement in the industry. So in the long run, it would probably be more cost effective to simply build a rifle with a FM reamer, than to cuss at the range for days on end.
29 Jun 2021
@ 09:20 am (GMT)

Frank Vallich

Re: Inherent accuracy?
Interesting topic. Your original. Read on the Hornady web that a brass case weak on one side will cause fliers. Free bore and COAL development was well documented. Probably will use the Barnes and Berger 168s. Laying prone developing down range accuracy is a Zen. Firing the.308 semi, open sights, from squat and kneeling requires same cartridge experimentation. Appears a longer COAL IS best for accuracy? Maybe but not always?

Probably will require a new barrel or rifle in the near future.

Benelli has entered the bolt action rifle market.
Lupo is the name. Well thought out piece of engineering.
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