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semi auto .22

19 Oct 2015
@ 11:55 pm (GMT)

jason

The old man wants a new .22
He's got this theory that a bolt action will have more power than his old 10/22 because it robs power to cycle the action... any truth to this? Just out of interest, I'm sure he would never notice the difference in real life.

Any recommendations/good experiences for .22 bolt actions these days? He wants it suppressed too.

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20 Oct 2015
@ 06:04 am (GMT)

Thomas Kitchen

Re: semi auto .22
hi jason.
have heard that before not sure if its true or not,
might be time to get out the chrono and see? and by how much

can't say much as i don't own one but i have been looking at the ruger american rimfires with interest, i know timney now offers after market triggers, if your not fan of the blade type (apparently you can take spring out of standard trigger if you want to go even lighter) plus you can use the 25 round ruger mags on an a cat licence.
think they come threaded and reloaders had one of the cheapest bare rifle prices

cz's seem to be the most common bolt actions.
talon arms were selling toz rifles through trademe not sure if they still are.

have read a few reviews on those lithgow crossovers but to me they really seemed to of missed the mark on them everything from the trigger to the bedding to the way the action screws to the stock, hopefully they do it better as they move into the centre fire market.
20 Oct 2015
@ 06:28 am (GMT)

Bob Mavin

Re: semi auto .22
An old bolt action Brno is hard to beat.
Cheers
Bob
20 Oct 2015
@ 07:39 am (GMT)

trevor savage

Re: semi auto .22
Savage rascal is probably not what you're after but i love it. So easy to carry and amazingly acurate. Got it for when my little girl grows up.
20 Oct 2015
@ 08:18 am (GMT)

Mike Davis

Re: semi auto .22
norinco bolt action...similar to old bruno but fraction of the price,all Ive seen used and owned shoot well and accurately.
the take down semis are as good if not better than the origonal they copy and being bottom eject great for left or right handers.
20 Oct 2015
@ 06:24 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: semi auto .22
Suppressed semi auto's are too loud. Phutt CLACK CLACK as they cycle a round .If it's blow back action then some of the energy is used to rechamber a round.
I had a Miroku lever action. Suppressed with a slim steel parker hale silencer. With 22 shorts The magazine held 21 rounds and no opossum or Rabbit was safe. I still own it but getting it back to NZ from Australia is proving to be a chore! They're expensive though so a Bolt action with a can is probably the best deal. I have a CZ 452 American bolt action with a custom Suppressor it's very quiet.
20 Oct 2015
@ 06:29 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: semi auto .22
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=966140847
20 Oct 2015
@ 06:32 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: semi auto .22
http://www.trademe.co.nz/sports/hunting-shooting/rifles/rimfire/auction-965854959.htm
20 Oct 2015
@ 06:45 pm (GMT)

jason

Re: semi auto .22
So it's official. They take ammo power to cycle the action.
I thought of using a crony but don't have two rifles and different barrels and rounds could give different numbers anyway.
Yeah I'm thinking a decent suppressor that can take high velocity rounds as well as subs.
Iv heard norinco shoot well too, funny because there also cheap.
Thanks I will look at the links.
I already have his 10/22 and would like to keep it as is as he used it for thousands of rounds shooting possums. It was brought in the 70's for 100/150 bucks new! and still shoots good. Plus he's insisting bolt action.
23 Oct 2015
@ 03:31 pm (GMT)

Bryan Webster

Re: semi auto .22
Quote:
Suppressed semi auto's are too loud. Phutt CLACK CLACK as they cycle a round .If it's blow back action then some of the energy is used to rechamber a round.



You can buy bolt buffers for the 10/22 that will reduce the noise of the bolt smacking back to a significant degree. KIDD in the USA sells them, as do a number of other firms. I have one on my own 10/22 but silencers in Canada are nearly impossible to get and not legal to use for hunting use.

I agree that his best bet may be a bolt action...and for what it is worth, I do like the CZ 455 American/BRNO and all. Interesting about the norinco as I have never shot one...yet... My favourite has to be the Anschutz based on their model 64 action though. Pricey yes, but I love them and they shoot very well.
23 Oct 2015
@ 06:44 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: semi auto .22
23 Oct 2015
@ 08:13 pm (GMT)

jason

Re: semi auto .22
Ended up killing time in town the other day, at the sports shop.
And got him a nirinco scoped, suppressed package got the wood stock for $350.
And some subs.
Took it home, cleaned the bore checked scope screws etc then zeroed it at about 40 paces/meters
Even with cheap 4 power scope it would shoot a ragged hole. And that was close enough and gave it to him.
You can't expect too much for the money, they did get the main thing right though... it shoots good.
The bolt is rough to operate and the safety is ridiculously hard to use. But I'm sure it will free up with use. Or if you were keen you could lap surfaces to improve it.
He's happy with wood and a 4 power it's all he used in his time possum skinning.
23 Oct 2015
@ 09:16 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: semi auto .22
You can buy bolt buffers for the 10/22 that will reduce the noise of the bolt smacking back to a significant degree.

Yeah I had one in my 10/22 and sold it for the CZ 452 above and had a custom suppressor made. It's so quiet that the birds don't fly away when I shoot it. The Norinco's are a copy of the old Bruno Model No 1 I think .
23 Oct 2015
@ 09:18 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: semi auto .22
Awesome Jason.
23 Oct 2015
@ 09:50 pm (GMT)

Dan Keene

Re: semi auto .22
Hi Jason.
The JW15 is a copy of a Bruno Model 1. If you need a spare mag buy a CZ452 mag. They feed much better than the Norinco original. I think the polymer version is the better one. The Norinco trigger has adjustable sear engagement. This is usually poorly set at the factory and will let you inprove the trigger no end. You will need a very small flat bladed screwdriver to adjust it and maybe a little bit of heat for the loctite. The bolts can be a little sticky but polishing sorts that.
I have one. It shoots so well I sold my CZ452 Varmint because I could not tell the difference in their accuracy.
Cheers, Dan.
24 Oct 2015
@ 07:04 pm (GMT)

jason

Re: semi auto .22
Thanks dan, good to know.
I will wait and see if I hear any moaning about it.
13 Nov 2015
@ 10:00 am (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: semi auto .22
Hey Jason. How's the Norinco going. Any moaning yet ?
14 Nov 2015
@ 08:41 pm (GMT)

jason

Re: semi auto .22
Hey mate.
Typical old fulla. One round into the side of a shed and hasn't touched it since.
Pretty busy at work.
I havnt done enough shooting myself.
Just a few hours at night on Nathan new book.
14 Nov 2015
@ 10:30 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: semi auto .22
Lol But he's happy with the knowledge that in the safe is his new and accurate bolt gun.
Yes "The Book" is very good ain't it?
As for Making time to shoot!!! I think back to my years on the farm I lived with my
22 Moruku lever action with in reach. I was at war with the local Magpie population. I took for granted being able to shoot before and after school until I was shipped off to Boarding school. Holidays I made up for it. Don't watch TV and use that time for yourself!
. My Dad bless him was a great shot and I wish he was still here to share Nathans books and reloading. He always talked about reloading and Jet boats I have been lucky enough to get both of them and live out his dreams.
Take your Dad out and do stuff with him. Find some rabbits to spook light! And give him some stick for missing old cotton tail? Make and enjoy making some memories and video it if you can.
Life's like a Penny you can spend it on anything you like ! But you can only spend it once!
15 Nov 2015
@ 07:50 am (GMT)

jason

Re: semi auto .22
Yes I lived where I could shoot an air rifle any time as a child. and missed it when living in town.
Iv now got a firearms licence and have moved up to bigger rifles. And not long moved back out to the country I enjoy my shooting rabbits out the house window technique practice. but am careful to not ruin the fun all at once. My place isn't big enough for much more but it's better than nothing and fun. my dog also likes the meat!
I'm missing long range shooting and hunting lately. Just too much work.
And I should take my dad out. It's just a little tricky as we work together or cover each other. But I hear the stories of his time shooting possums. We will see!
15 Nov 2015
@ 08:08 am (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: semi auto .22
as an aside topic but to do with .22 lr check this ammo tool out

http://pacotools.com/tool_discriptions
 

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