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RIfle Slings

23 Mar 2020
@ 05:49 am (GMT)

Frank Vallich

Anyone provide feedback on this item. Appears to be well thought out.

https://www.rifle-craft.com/product/rs-3-quick-adjust-sling/

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01 Apr 2020
@ 04:55 am (GMT)

Frank Vallich

Re: RIfle Slings
I ordered the sling today. Will provide feedback on the product once utilized.
01 Apr 2020
@ 08:25 am (GMT)

Scott Struif

Re: RIfle Slings
Yeah, Frank, please do. I watched the guy's video, but didn't comment on your post, since you asked for feedback from users of it. Looks like he put a lot of thought into it. I've always used a 1 1/4" sling with no shoulder pad, because it facilitates forming a hasty sling with the forward wrap on your forearm wrist. I used to use the old leather, military style, but the new nylon ones are cheap and more supple. Please post your review of the sling. It sucks dropping your gun.
01 Apr 2020
@ 11:45 am (GMT)

Mike H

Re: RIfle Slings
Frank - Can you confirm that URL. I've tried copy/paste to browser and Open lLink in New Tab and both give me a 404 error. Thanks.
01 Apr 2020
@ 12:12 pm (GMT)

Scott Struif

Re: RIfle Slings
https://rifle-craft.com/products/rs-3-quick-adjust-sling
01 Apr 2020
@ 03:33 pm (GMT)

Frank Vallich

Re: RIfle Slings
If you open a really good search engine, https://www.dogpile.com/, and search for rifle-craft it will provide the home for the web site and the possibility to explore all this young man has posted as offerings to the firearm enthusiast.

Hope this heps you.

:^)>
01 Apr 2020
@ 03:49 pm (GMT)

Frank Vallich

Re: RIfle Slings
Had a look at the link and web pages. The web page has a new look and condensed cleanly from the previous version that I preferred two weeks past. Ah well.
02 Apr 2020
@ 08:35 am (GMT)

Mike H

Re: RIfle Slings
Thanks for help finding the url. Not to derail the conversation about this RifleCraft sling, but does anyone have any experience with the Latigo sling sold by Brownells? I first read about it in Van Zwoll's book Hunters Guide to Accurate Shooting and then found this YouTube demonstrating the sling. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqUh4ed7xGg It also appears to be well thought out. Mike.
20 Apr 2020
@ 02:21 am (GMT)

Frank Vallich

Re: RIfle Slings
Hello to those interested. The rest of you? Meh! Bahaha

Last SUnday, out here where winter still prevails, we ventured out to test the Mossberg 146B .22. Possible new grouse gun after being inspired by those that shoot these birds with .30 cals. THe 75 years of life on the rifle requires two new springs that have been ordered. Could not feed from the tube. Dismantled the .22 on a canvas roll with the leatherman while a cold wind blew at my back. All this crouched while wearing the RS-3 attached to the .308 R1. As my back was turned and the cold north wind blew I chuckled while thinking how well bear spray would work on this day. It would not work unless you were able to maneuver NOrth of the bear.( Oh wait mister bear - Haha )The wife likes the peep hole front site of the .22 and shot numerous center hits requiring going to the target with tape and testing the sling.

Utilized the rifle/sling combination while stepping through thigh deep snow drifts to set up and check targets on a dead tree. Stepping back and forth to the target, numerous times, to check grouping, when the black area of the target was hit.

The sling:

The build quality is excellent.
The thought process to develop this aid in shooting exceptional.
Deployment of the sling for firing requires practice. Just as precision shooting requires practice. Once your muscle memory is in place deployment is a natural movement. This sling maintains close body contact allowing the use of both upper body appendages for your deployment. Best to read Slings-in-the-Wild. An honest evaluation of rifle slings.

I'm pleased to have this sling!

Today, April 19, 2020 I checked on the web site to provide the most recent WWW link. The site is down. Sent an email to my contact and will report back if further information is available.
21 Apr 2020
@ 03:45 am (GMT)

Frank Vallich

Re: RIfle Slings
https://rifle-craft.com/

Up and running. There was a licensing issue with the government.

I would cringe every time Revenue Canada posted a letter to my business account. Always wanting something and never giving anything back. Oh well Eh! Haha

I will be ordering a second RS-3. Good slings are a rarity.

28 Apr 2020
@ 01:07 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: RIfle Slings
I make my own.... cheap, strong, simple ...... What more could you want in a sling..... No gimmicks.....





28 Apr 2020
@ 02:54 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: RIfle Slings
These DIY slings dry quickly are easy to wash and with no stitching will never come undone.....





28 Apr 2020
@ 03:00 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: RIfle Slings
It's amazing what a good sling will do

28 Apr 2020
@ 03:07 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: RIfle Slings
01 May 2020
@ 06:58 am (GMT)

Frank Vallich

Re: RIfle Slings
Yes Warwick! No stitching is an advantage. Although stitching is and can be durable for years. Hell I've a pair of Ecco shoes that are stiched and after 10 years of walking through life one stitch has disintegrated. This is summer and winter wear.

The RS-3 is not a gimmick. It holds the rifle taught to the body. It enables quick deployment and best suited for firing from a one kneel down position.
Best sling I have in my inventory.


01 May 2020
@ 01:16 pm (GMT)

Scott Struif

Re: RIfle Slings
Hi, Frank. As you suggested, I read "Slings in the Wild." Interesting, until the author got to field-testing. His honesty, I appreciated. He said he could neither confirm nor deny the benefit of the loop sling, because, of the 2 rifles he was using, one was too heavy, and neither were previously confirmed to be capable of sub- MOA to begin with. I also appreciated that he didn't make his book a commercial for his RS3 design. I still don't exactly understand how it works. Looks like you carry the rifle slung over one shoulder with then sling traversing your chest/back. Then, when you're ready to shoot, you grab the tag end at you shoulder to cinch it up tight. There's no loop involved, right? Seems like the author spent a great deal of time extolling the loop, but the didn't incorporate it into his RS3 design. Maybe I'm missing something.
01 May 2020
@ 10:56 pm (GMT)

Paul Leverman

Re: RIfle Slings
Is that cowbell Swiss made?
01 May 2020
@ 11:54 pm (GMT)

Mike Heyl

Re: RIfle Slings
Scott - I too read the book and was initially a bit confused. I posted a link in this thread a month ago about the Latigo sling. When I went back and watched the video link in that post - combined it with the pictures in the book it made more sense to me. As near as I can tell both designs are very similar in the loop design/loop keepers.
02 May 2020
@ 02:10 am (GMT)

Scott Struif

Re: RIfle Slings
Thanks, Mike. I re-watched both the Latigo and RS3 videos. I get it now. What had confused me was the RS3 guy's discussion of dropping into the kneeling position and using the cross-body sling like a hasty sling, sans loop. I see now the RS3 has a loop, if you want to use it, as well as a loop keeper that must be puchased separately, at additional cost, which is annoying. The quick-adjust feature if the RS3 is definitely intriguing, and maybe worth the money. The obviously put a lot of time and thought into his design.
02 May 2020
@ 02:25 am (GMT)

Mike Heyl

Re: RIfle Slings
Scott - As far as I know, Brownells in the US is the only distributor of the Latigo. At the left of the link below and under the "Learn" tab you can download the instructions but sadly the instructions are completely silent on the use of the sling - talking only about opening/closing the sling. Hope this helps.

https://www.brownells.com/shooting-accessories/slings-sling-swivels/slings/quick-set-latigo-sling-prod1180.aspx

Mike
02 May 2020
@ 04:39 am (GMT)

Frank Vallich

Re: RIfle Slings
Warwick: Your scope mount is the best. Almost part of the barrel.

Paul> What cow bell? What am I missing?

Scott: A loop keeper exists. On the portion of the sling where the left arm drops into the sling. If you have the time to snug it up it is available BUT the idea is to adjust that portion of the sling for support of the rifle to relieve the left arm of cramping, heart beat thumping etc. It is all about left arm relief. Incidentally regarding scopes. You mentioned how other people have noted poor twilight factor of a Zeiss scope. Possibly a chinese knock off. Never take the word of others about twilight factor. I've been around folks that need a flashlight to traverse terrain that is lite up by the moon.
02 May 2020
@ 04:04 pm (GMT)

Paul Leverman

Re: RIfle Slings
It's all good, Frank. I was just giving Warwick a dig.
02 May 2020
@ 04:54 pm (GMT)

Scott Struif

Re: RIfle Slings
Frank- I take back the comment about the Zeiss scopes not being good for low light. I couldn't remember where I read it, but it was an offhand comment Nathan made, where he said he had "banned" Swarovski and Zeiss scopes, whatever that means. It was the Swaro that he said was poor in low light. The Zeiss he panned for its eye relief.
02 May 2020
@ 05:45 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: RIfle Slings
Quote:
Yes Warwick! No stitching is an advantage. Although stitching is and can be durable for years. Hell I've a pair of Ecco shoes that are stiched and after 10 years of walking through life one stitch has disintegrated. This is summer and winter wear.

The RS-3 is not a gimmick. It holds the rifle taught to the body. It enables quick deployment and best suited for firing from a one kneel down position.
Best sling I have in my inventory.




Cheers Frank. I wasn't suggesting that the RS-3 was a Gimmick...
I brought a beautiful leather sling with a thumb hole for walking with rifle on the shoulder. It was awesome until it rained and got wet and heavy and when it dried out it went stiff as a board and shrank.... $99.00 I paid for that gimmick...... It was like fancy coloured fishing lures..... Made to catch the fishermen not the Fush!!!!
I have tied the sling strap tight around the pistol grip of rifle and then set the shoulder loop to let the rifle hang hands free in front on my chest for fast snap shooting... It works really well.... I don't have any Pictures sorry as it looks a bit too NZ SAS..... BUT for bush stalking its great.
I find that with my Sako 75 carried barrel down on my shoulder with normal sling that I can grab and roll it around lifting to the shoulder letting my wrist drop the bolt into locked and loaded
ready to fire in one smooth quick motion....
Yes I do carry Bolt up on a loaded chamber. ONLY when hunting alone on private land and I have seen the Deer.... I always seam to see one and then spook another whilst stalking in..... I hate being caught out on an empty chamber and having too move, waste time and make noise loading a round! It's is a waste of time, money, petrol, effort, energy and leaves the freezer empty.... Puhg that.... I hunt for food not trophies..... I'll leave that empty hunting trips to the Dooley's on their sponserd TV shows......
03 May 2020
@ 04:08 am (GMT)

Frank Vallich

Re: RIfle Slings
Warwick.

I'm in favour of walking, stalking and hiding far from the quad that is hidden in the bush from the road hunters (I hide the quad off quad trails also) with their finely tooled leather slings that haven't been exposed to the weather. They appear at the range to ZERO their rifles that are clamped into vice like devices. Pat one another on their backs and climb into their trucks ready for another season. I'm not privy as to how they split up the meat of a kill between the bunch. Never asked as I do not care.

The RS-3 is a useful tool for carry. Much as painters masking tape over the muzzle is rather than buying the overpriced product at the local shop.

Paul.
I'm still wondering about "gonging" a Swiss Cow Bell? I missed something somewhere EH! Hahaha

Scott.
Poor eye relief and poor low light can be caused by filthy optics. The lens may look clean but if you mist the lens with your breath it should dry without any streaks or smudges. Blow off all dirt and debris from the lens BUT not with canned air as the propellant leaves another chemical layer. Try soap and water first. Then the difficult part. How to explain lens cleaning? Optical grade cotton - ethyl alcohol or isopropanol as pure as possible - wooden stick to roll cotton upon and start from the center with damp cotton and work your way to the perimeter. Mist lens with breath and clean again until NO trace of pollutants is visible. After you have driven yourself mad as the lens will not clean perfectly you are now on the path to understanding lens cleaning. Go to a microscopy site and search - Lens cleaning. Good Luck!
03 May 2020
@ 05:43 am (GMT)

Scott Struif

Re: RIfle Slings
Frank, Good point about lens cleaning. Nathan can be opioinated, but he certainly has the experience to back it up. A lot of his musings revolve around what's best for hard-kicking magnums, which can be extrapolated backwards, for those of us shooting milder cartridges with less field experience. Eye-relief is important to me not because I fear "scope-eye," but because on any given day I may be wearing a tee-shirt or a heavy coat with rain gear. I have a Leica M3 with Zeiss lenses made in the 50s, the best glass then and probably now. Nathan says in his Long Range book not to bother with trying to estimate range with any of the "range finding" reticles on the market, because one never knows the actual dimensions of the animal-in-question. I'm inclined to agree. The only long range shots I took was at 450 yards, with the assistance of a spotter, who saw the puff of dust at the animal's feet on the first, the second being successful. Where I hunt now (western Oregon), the key is being able to tell whether the deer has antlers or not at dawn or dusk. So I'm not ruling Zeiss out. Last season, my rifle slipped off my shoulder while I was fighting my way through a patch of chest-high ferns. I think the RS3 would have helped in that situation. I appreciate your giving it a thumbs-up. Sounds like a winner to me.
 

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