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MRAD with yards

27 Jan 2019
@ 10:29 pm (GMT)

Garrett Pasquale

Is it possible to use a MRAD scope with a laser range finder that reads in yards? The reason I ask as there is a few good second hand scopes in this format that get my attention but my binoculars read distance in yards(don't want to part with the Leica's).
Thanks

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28 Jan 2019
@ 04:39 am (GMT)

Jonathan Kitterman

Re: MRAD with yards
Yes, it is possible. You would be best off keeping a data book or note card with custom drop and windage values. You would just be keeping a drop and windage chart with mixed values.

There is a chart about half way down the following article from rifleshooter.com that shows yardage and different moa and radian values as an example.
https://rifleshooter.com/2017/05/mil-mrad-or-moa-scopes-target-size-matters/
28 Jan 2019
@ 06:55 pm (GMT)

Andrew Murray

Re: MRAD with yards
Very possible. MRAD is very metric. 1 MRAD is 10cm at 100m. Therefore if you work in yards... knowing that 100 yards is 91.4m then 1MRAD at 100 yards is 9.14cm. It's quite doable but not as smooth as working in metres
30 Jan 2019
@ 04:59 am (GMT)

Robert McLean

Re: MRAD with yards
Same issue here. Found a SIII 6-24 that I can afford and it is MRAD. My old Leica 900 is of course the 'yards' model. I would have thought that because it is German, it could be set to meters but not from what i am reading on-line. Once I learn the chart I guess it will be fine. Old dog and new tricks. Its an opportunity to stretch my mind. The scope will maybe be more suited to my grandson. I certainly feel like I should grab it.
30 Jan 2019
@ 05:34 am (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: MRAD with yards
·One's mind, once stretched by a new idea, never regains its original dimensions. – Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr.
Buy it now. It's a lifetime investment. Inches millimeters there's charts to get it right. Or you can shoot it and make your own real life drop charts..... Time is free as long as you have it? I'm
30 Jan 2019
@ 07:27 pm (GMT)

Garrett Pasquale

Re: MRAD with yards
I think this one might be best left in the too hard basket! Was worth thinking about but might be best to keep it simple and stick with yards and moa. Cheers for the replies.
30 Jan 2019
@ 10:15 pm (GMT)

Iain

Re: MRAD with yards
If you want to use the yards R/F with a M/R scope, the simplest way is to simply reduce the R/F readings by 10% and call it metres.

Very quick and easy to do mentally. It won't be a completely accurate conversion, but depending on your ranges, it will be close enough.

Do a few samples with an online ballistic calculator and you will see whether or not it is sufficiently accurate for you.

31 Jan 2019
@ 05:28 am (GMT)

Paul Leverman

Re: MRAD with yards
Many years ago, our govt. decided to go metric. What an uproar. Now it's second hand news. Metrics, despite popular misconception, is quite easy. The basic rule: you have ten fingers. Use them. Metrics are the original digital format. If you can count to ten, you can do metric. After that, all you have to do is add a new label.
31 Jan 2019
@ 01:24 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: MRAD with yards
Ah Paul...... Its too hard to count on fingers..... They have cellphone apps to count numbers. Fractions are dead 3/4 1/2 15/16....... Modern educations removed problem solving from the life skills equation? Going metric was a UN thing needed for global governance! And... So that your mates had the same sized bullets and too avoid popular Misconceptions......
31 Jan 2019
@ 03:12 pm (GMT)

Andrew Murray

Re: MRAD with yards
Warwick please, the metric system has been around for centuries. Long before any notion of a UN or the League of Nations before it. And it's clever! Not too mention the Imperial system was of course the main system used and enforced by the British Empire while it was conquering and plundering the known and unknown world. It's not like the Imperial system hasn't been used for control if we are to level that accusation at the metric system.

It's an excellent system for counting and measuring and weighing, and now all of the units are based on scientific laws and principals to ensure they never go out of sync.
31 Jan 2019
@ 05:52 pm (GMT)

Paul Leverman

Re: MRAD with yards
One cc. (ml.) of water, at one degree celsius, weighs one gram.

At minus 40 degrees, celsius or farenheit, it doesn't matter. Both the same...both really friggin' cold.

Now you know the metric system. And the big bonus: no app required.

And we still need fractions so that everyone that shoots a 7mm will know that 1:9 is better than 1:8 or 1:10.
01 Feb 2019
@ 09:17 am (GMT)

Garrett Pasquale

Re: MRAD with yards
Quote:
If you want to use the yards R/F with a M/R scope, the simplest way is to simply reduce the R/F readings by 10% and call it metres.

Very quick and easy to do mentally. It won't be a completely accurate conversion, but depending on your ranges, it will be close enough.

Do a few samples with an online ballistic calculator and you will see whether or not it is sufficiently accurate for you.


That certainly simplifies it, thanks Iain
01 Feb 2019
@ 09:45 am (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: MRAD with yards = The metric minute
The Metric Minute. Its the same with a bit more in it! You'll have more time in the same time. 100 seconds to the minute 100 minutes per hour!
Daylight savings just got more power. 24hour has to stay to keep Julius Caesars calendar in play. Still... in the same time. No need to fuss. Things will take longer to cook and you'll have less money for more time... How I hear you say?Well you see the minute wont get any longer. It's just getting more seconds too make it stronger...... faster will be slower.... quick things get longer.
The Meterick minute......................

As for yards to mill radians. If you're smart enough? Or want to save $$$$ and spend some time.... You'll work it out, come up with a conversion formula and it will work as accurate as the scopes click values. It will work any time any place. Just like how you can tie your shoe laces or wipe your arse in the dark. If you don't have time then spend some $$$$ and buy a metric range finder.........
01 Feb 2019
@ 04:00 pm (GMT)

Paul Leverman

Re: MRAD with yards
Warwick, you know that we revere you wisdom the world over, but this time you are just plain wrong. Sorry. You put the decimal in the wrong place, it's only ten seconds to the minute, and ten minutes to the hour. So, slower will be faster and longer things are quicker. You must have used the old outdated 20th metric century app for this. And I'm glad you're not raggin' on me, cause I gave up on shoelaces about ten years ago.....get with it man, velcro is the way of the future. No more bending over, just get a stick and flip it over to the other side. And what is a metric range finder, anyway? You have metric cows running around NZ that don't know where they live, or what? Ten steaks to the cow, ten chops to the pig? I thought you had schools over there.
01 Feb 2019
@ 08:10 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: MRAD with yards
Schools of fish. For sure. And old imperial cows with gallons of milk



Then we have the new metric ones that will have litres of milk. We're phasing these new ones in this year.... we're not sure if the new cows teats will fit in the old sized cups....



Paul. I am going to have to stop hijacking the forum threads. I apologize for any of my unreasonable reasonings to the OP. I just sometimes get on a intellectual bubble of cows methane and loose myself and Nek-minute......



Andrew I have worked with both metric , Whitworth and imperial measurements. Often with both on the same piece of machinery. They all have their advantages. Cheers gents keep your axe sharp n ya powder dry.....
02 Feb 2019
@ 12:59 am (GMT)

Paul Leverman

Re: MRAD with yards
That's the problem with text, no tone of inference. All in fun, Warwick, all is good. But I think your barbecue was a little too warm for steaks.
09 Feb 2019
@ 11:50 am (GMT)

Anders Österberg

Re: MRAD with yards
I really don't know what you guys taking about...

What does it matter if the scope is in moa or mils versus what distansmesure you use .....?

If you have 475 meters or 520 yards to your target/game... , your dropdata will tell you that you have to go up either 11.4 moa or 3.3 mils , the distans measurements have no interaction on
what kind of klick or reticle you have .

MOA have no favor with yards or wiseversa .... MILS with meters... , if you use a rangfinder , very important... , IF you use a rangfinder...

An often heard missconsumsion is that one moa is 1 inch at 100 yards .... , IT'S NOT!
If you is about to do rangfinding wit the reticle I strongly recommend MILS and meters .

A very bad thing is to have mils-reticle and moa-klick and try to correctyour hit ...smily...
 

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