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New phone won't work...

27 Feb 2020
@ 11:34 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

I brought a new phone today. As I was setting it up to use. It said do you accept Goggles terms and conditions?
I have read them and I don't agree with or accept them. So the new phone won't go on to the next set up page and I am unable to make a call or send a message? So I went back to the shop and asked if they knew how to get it to work.....They have never had anyone who didn't want to accept
the T&Cs. And that they don't know what to do about it! I'm going to ring the consumer institute and the Human rights commission in Wellington to see what their lawyers have to say?
Is it possible that I am wrong and will have to accept these terms or will I have to keep using my 14 year old S4 Mini? The trouble with that is
my old phone works fine and does everything i need a phone to do. The internet no longer accepts the phones security socket layer and web page's won't open for me any more. So if I want to be able to get online Apparently I have to get a new phone. Talk about being technologically abused and forced into changing. Fucking Wankers..... I'll be ditching the phone and have nothing before I get electronically shafted by a set of Goggle eyed Capitalist. .... unbelievable crap eh?

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27 Feb 2020
@ 11:39 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: New phone won't work...
I'm fighting a loosing battle here most likely but I'm dammed if I want to roll over and be a good little citizen without any answers. .....?
27 Feb 2020
@ 11:42 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: New phone won't work...
I MAYBE WRONG
BUT THAT'S
HIGHLY
UNLIKELY
28 Feb 2020
@ 12:31 am (GMT)

Frank Vallich

Re: New phone won't work...
I"ll bite on this one. Bahaha. You are an ant on an anthill, a very big anthill. An engineer, very passionate about building road overpasses to specifications, witnesses rebar being dropped into concrete support columns during the pour instead of being correctly built/tied into the existing framework by the contractor. He makes noise about hiring a concrete imaging radar company to check all of the existing poured overpasses to the overseers of this massive ring roadway. He states to me he has the engineer ring and ethics abound. I state he may have an accident. He is an ant on an anthill. The "Overseers" offer him a three year term position on the far side (haha) of the country. They state as his wife originates from the area of the three year term he will be very happy. END of STORY.
No different than having data encryption and compression hardware that sits on either side of a router across the internet making it impossible to sniff the line. You cannot provide code to the Big Ears and Eyes that sniff the data as the two units are unique to their respective data transfer. Your company folds as no one will play with you. Edward Snowden, now living in Russia, fought to inform the world but his information didn't change the world. Not one dam bit. Not a 0 or 1.

So if you have the time and resources carry the torch OR just enjoy life.

Just Saying. :^)
29 Feb 2020
@ 12:56 am (GMT)

Paul Leverman

Re: New phone won't work...
Warwick, it's too late. They already know what they want to know about you, and they will not stop looking. Accept the fact, save yourself a lot of stress. What are they going to do with your info? I always figured if they are looking at me, then someone else is being missed. Live a boring life, they leave you alone.
01 Mar 2020
@ 05:37 am (GMT)

Scott Struif

Re: New phone won't work...
Warwick, I have to agree with Paul. Then you could watch the video I posted below in "Best home defense weapon."
04 Mar 2020
@ 10:01 am (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: New phone won't work...
Gents I'm not stressed about it.
I just "think" that as I don't like the thought of. A Pedophile looking at my children out side their kindergarten. The Trades man looking through my wife's underwear in her draws! When hes been trusted to be fixing the bedroom on sweets shower, The mechanic doing burnouts and getting speed camera fines when test driving my V8!!!! OR A teacher selling pictures of my Daughter online...... I don't think that my telecom inter-web provider should be selling my viewing history to advertisers, reading my texts. Monitoring my contacts, Be able to turn on my devices systems and camera........etc.... etc..... etc.....

If I accept this behavior as the new normal? Then whats so wrong with.......???? Get my point????? Laying down like a Starved tied up and beat Dog isn't something that I aspire too........ If you guys are happy to rollover to have your belly scratched only to find out that it's been shaved then you might as well scrap all of your guns and reloading gear. Buy a Creed-more or 300 Blackout some crapy Coppa ammo and be happy and grateful for the Apps being in charge of your life.......
I thought more of you lot than to fold at the first sign of electronic bear Scat?
You know how this site has taught us not to buy into the BS and Magazine hype. How to make good informed realistic decisions? Problem solve and build accurate food gathering tools! If you apply these skills to the rest of your life's experiences. You'll find that Ewe have some challenging decisions too make to keep your fleece groomed and in place.............. Somethings coming...I can hear it, I feel it's vibrations..BUT.. I cannot see it! Is it good or is it bad? Should I wait.....?
If I was a Deer I'd "BARK" a warning to all! and then I'd RUN...






04 Mar 2020
@ 03:12 pm (GMT)

Scott Struif

Re: New phone won't work...
I see your point, and agree with you. But unfortunately, with a phone, you haven't much choice. There are hacks you can do with a phone, like turning off the microphone. I never use mine, unless I'm on hold and switch to speakerphone. So I could disable it. But google is going to collect your search data no matter what device or operating system you use. Even if you don't log in to a google account, they'll track you by your IP address. So unless you're a computer wiz and know how to spoof your address, or how to hack into somebody else's router, they can figure out who you are. And none of that would work if you're on a cellular network because your phone has a unique IMIE number. So unless we're going back to Dixie cups and threads to communicate, we're screwed.
08 Mar 2020
@ 02:19 am (GMT)

Scott Struif

Re: New phone won't work...
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08 Mar 2020
@ 04:13 pm (GMT)

Paul Leverman

Re: New phone won't work...
It's been 16 years this winter since I last used our cell phone. Not even sure if it will connect. It still turns on (when I need an address or phone #) and sits in the junk drawer in a bag of rice otherwise. Don't miss it. Obviously don't rely on it. Only had it to use for customers to call regarding snow plowing. Don't need any new ones now, so don't need the phone. I consider myself "upgraded" to "no-phone" @ $0.00 per month, 0 gigabytes data, and no ads ever. I don't have to worry about you listening in on my conversations, or tracking my movements, or seeing my selfies. And even if they did, so what? Nothing on my phone they want or need, it's all in the phone book (remember those, kids? That's what we used to get beat with when we didn't listen and do what we were told. Ahhh, the good ol' days, eh?) They already know: how much I make, how many guns I have, how many vehicles I own, how much is in my bank account, where I've lived for the last 65 years (including when I was 17 in a foreign country and they mailed me my draft notice), what my dog eats, what I eat, how much my tables at the gun show cost me, how often I go to the range to shoot, my face on facial recognition software, my DNA, my hospital and medical bills, what drugs I do, what drugs they gave me, what drugs didn't work, which ones did, my shoe size, my first encounter, my last encounter, what brand bourbon I drink and why, that I now need glasses to read but not qualify at the range, that I am ambidextrous, which is my master eye, and that I have a cold. But we have an agreement that if they need anything else, they can have it, as long as they just leave me the f**k alone. So if you think that by not agreeing to their rules, you win, well, let me know how that works out for you. I still don't have a cell phone. And they are still the government. Oh, you thought it was Google? Yeah, no. So, if you don't like agreeing with their terms of reference, as always, you have a choice. Don't buy/have/use a cell phone. It's easy. Make a choice.
08 Mar 2020
@ 05:41 pm (GMT)

Scott Struif

Re: New phone won't work...
You can get a cheap cell phone to use as a mini-computer. My Samsung J3 was $180. They work fine when you're home, near your router. You don't need a cellular connection. Ten years ago I had to sit at my desk to browse the Internet. Now I can sit in my backyard. I can use ballistics software when I'm at the range. It's like a pocket computer. It's a good value, even if you elect not to pay for the cellular service.
08 Mar 2020
@ 05:54 pm (GMT)

John D. Hays - New Mexico

Re: New phone won't work...

You know, with most any cellular phone the authorities can literally triangulate your location by the direction and relative strength of the signal to and from the nearby cell towers.

If you are using your Internet connection to make your cellular connection the authorities can get your IP address, either static or dynamic, and lookup who that router belongs to and find you just the same.
 

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