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24 Jul 2018
@ 11:39 am (GMT)

Andrew Murray

I think there is an unspoken truth here. One that may not be readily recognised or accepted. But I think to a large degree we all are environmentalists or at the very least opposed to the standard operating procedures that our societies dictate to us.

I mean as hunters/shooters we understand conservation. We understand our place in the world and that as a whole we need to manage our planet well and better than we currently are doing. We also generally speaking try to live holisticly and well.

So that brings me to my point. Has anyone else tried non plastic foods wraps. We are currently using pieces of fabric that are coated in beeswax and they are really good.

I wonder if such things are available elsewhwre? I know Australia is one of the last if not the last country to have pesticide free beeswax due to our strict quarantine procedures keeping bees free from the deadly varroa mite that has plagued the rest of the world.

But are there other areas you have become an accidental or intentional environmentalist?

I wonder if you ever thought of yourself that way?

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27 Jul 2018
@ 11:28 pm (GMT)

Paul Leverman

Re: Non-plastic wraps
Hi Andrew. For the most part, I gave up on plastic a very long time ago. Several reasons, but that is a rant for another day. Because of my working conditions, I have to eat my meals without the benefit of being able to wash up before I chow down. I wrap my lunch in waxed paper, and only partially unwrap so I am only touching the paper, not the food. Ziploc bags are useless, at least to me. I cannot seem to get the damned things to open, I usually end up just ripping them open, thus rendering the "reusable" to quite the opposite. Your beeswax fabric sounds interesting, will have to search that.

The unfortunate scenario is that in this day and age, we simply will not live without plastic. I just don't see the possibility of someone carving the keyboard buttons out of bone or wood. A society of convenience, driven by the marketing specialists that tell us what we can't live without. It would have been interesting to be in the alternate universe where plastic was never developed.
28 Jul 2018
@ 01:27 am (GMT)

mark korte

Re: Non-plastic wraps
"I just don't see the possibility of someone carving the keyboard buttons out of bone or wood. A society of convenience, driven by the marketing specialists that tell us what we can't live without"
Well said Paul. I made a brief comment on another thread about market driven products and our reliance on ever "better" phones, tablets etc. I thought it interesting that folks were pointing out the uselessness of things on new guns like plastic stocks, muzzle breaks etc and complaining about spell check at the same time. What ever happened to learning to spell? Its a rat wheel and to a degree we are all slaves to it, witting or no. Small gestures like wax paper instead of plastic probably aren't going to save the big picture, but they definitely (just had to look that word spelling up!) help us carve out a small space of sanity in our own lives. That in and of itself is priceless.
28 Jul 2018
@ 08:33 pm (GMT)

Andrew Murray

Re: Non-plastic wraps
It is very much market driven, I think it is a general apathy and laziness that is driving the market though.

It's an interesting thought Mark, that small changes won't do much. But in reality it's the small things that do the most damage because their cumulative effect far outweighs any significant single gesture.

A documentary on Netflix (it used to be, no longer is) called (Dis)Honesty: The Truth About Lies showed a remarkable experiment where participants were given a test that was impossible to achieve, they were told they could have a sum of money per answer (correct or otherwise), the test would not be checked (of course they were to compare what the people said but they did not know this), their results known only to them. The majority of participants lied about the amount of questions they by a margin of 1-3, then a few percentage more. Less than 10 (out of a 5 year period of running the test) said they had completed the whole thing, costing the experiment about $400 in reward money, everyone else had cost the experiment over $50,000 with lies they deemed to be insignificant.

The point is of course that if every person makes a small decision (in this case environmentally) the cumulative effect will be far greater than any thing else offered that would appear to be a large effort.
29 Jul 2018
@ 02:30 am (GMT)

mark korte

Re: Non-plastic wraps
Andrew - That is precisely why we should be doing these things. It gives us hope - and that's maybe the most important thing we can have. Without that what else do we have? Gestures are everything - what the writer Barry Lopez called "a meaningful leaning into the light". Without it we are only what we see all too often everywhere. Don't get me wrong - I'm all for it. But as someone who has chosen not to reproduce myself its just easier for me (and unfortunately for those around me) to see the other side of it. Not popular, but rather glaring these days and everything seems to be accelerating. My thought is keep doing those things. They are inconvenient sometimes, but they are important. They make us recognize that we have limitations. But they also help us see that there can be hope thru change, however small.

And thats why we should all be using copper bullets :)
29 Jul 2018
@ 03:04 am (GMT)

Paul Leverman

Re: Non-plastic wraps
It is (in my opinion) only an illusion of "hope through change". While certainly, we all want this planet to survive, and us along with it, the small actions that we undertake will have little influence on the outcome. This society that we live in is driven by one thing: greed. We all want something, then we want more, and then we want it all. Every conflict ever suffered through was a direct result of someone wanting what someone else had, and they saw no reason why they shouldn't take it. Even if Andrew and I refuse to use plastic wrap, Dow Chemical ($49 billion),Exxon ($236 billion), BASF ($63.7 billion) will not go out of business. Just because the Province of British Columbia's capital city has decided to ban the use of plastic shopping bags, these companies won't even notice. What it all boils down to is the "Golden Rule": He who has the gold, makes the rules. When you and I do what we think is the right thing, it gives us comfort in knowing that we are not contributing to the overall demise of our home, and it is a very good feeling. But what is the realistic result? Not much. Unless there is a monumental, widespread drastic change in the way we live and what we do to this planet, face it (whether you like it or not), we are fucked.
29 Jul 2018
@ 03:39 am (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: Non-plastic wraps
Lies to soothe. The greatest seed lie we're being told is that well all go to live on Mars once we Over heat this idyllic place and turn the seas into a plastics collection depot...... Were being Idiwinked by a group of Geophilacs (Global Molesters) Kind of like The Necromonger empire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FycrZuWcfcc

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15 Aug 2018
@ 08:00 am (GMT)

Andrew Murray

Re: Non-plastic wraps
So NZ has banned single use plastic bags. Fantastic. Good job. I heard an interview last night where on of your environment ministers was on a news program here in Australia on our JJJ radio station.
The best bit was where she slammed our supermarkets and pollies.

It was to the effect of " your supermarkets are gutless and your politicians are too."

She didn't use those words at all. But that's what it seemed like she wanted to.

The more I see of your country the more I think about packing up and coming over.
15 Aug 2018
@ 09:24 am (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: Non-plastic wraps
Paul no one cares what you know until they know how much you care. "Theodore Roosevelt"
This guy had some good idea's in 1909 that still work today

http://quoteideas.com/theodore-roosevelt-quotes/

 

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