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6.5 x 06 or 280Rem

17 Sep 2020
@ 04:38 pm (GMT)

Sean Boswell

Having decided on a custom rebuild, Id like to retain my Weatherby Mk 5 action which is currently .270Win. Seems that a carbon wrap in .270 Win is hard to come by
Given the diameter of the bolt face and the fact that the bolt is designed in such a way as to preclude to much machining, Im left with 3 options:
6.5 Creedmore, 6.5 x 06, or .280 Rem.
I currently shoot Hornady 145 Gr ELDX out toaround 600 - 700 yds max.
Clearly each of the above will be capable of that, but any thoughts or advice that othersmore expert than myself would be greatly appreciated

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17 Sep 2020
@ 10:59 pm (GMT)

Paul Leverman

Re: 6.5 x 06 or 280Rem
Lots of fans for the 6.5x55, here and around the world.
18 Sep 2020
@ 07:51 am (GMT)

Hamish Gibbs

Re: 6.5 x 06 or 280Rem
Hi Sean, if it's a hunting rifle the type and typical weight of game likely to be encountered would be of help.
18 Sep 2020
@ 09:46 am (GMT)

Sean Boswell

Re: 6.5 x 06 or 280Rem
Quote:
Hi Sean, if it's a hunting rifle the type and typical weight of game likely to be encountered would be of help.


Yes, it is a hunting rifle currently chambered in .270 Win. I typically hunt Red Deer, Tahr, Chamois and wild pigs, so some effective killing power along with accuracy, out to 600 yds is required.
I am of the view at present that the 6.5 x 06 is another wildcat cartridge that didn't quite make the grade, however I'm happy to be persuaded otherwise.
18 Sep 2020
@ 10:24 am (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: 6.5 x 06 or 280Rem
Hi Sean, I am a fan of the original / parent cartridge - the .30-06. I wrote about this in the book series and have talked about it in recent streams etc. Alas, most folk don't really get it anymore. Last week, I shot my .30-06 out at 1km without fuss. 600 yards is nothing for a well tuned .30-06 and with a 195 to 208gr bullet of modern design, you can hunt red deer and Tahr with style. The cartridge book has more info on this topic and True-Flite can make and fit a barrel for you to my specs.

If you want a carbon wrap then I guess you are wanting to go for the light rifle / light recoil theme. Again, perhaps have a listen to my recent streams or read my books to see if my approach / ethos suits you. If it doesn't, then it will be best to seek advice elsewhere.

https://youtu.be/-3955Euww6M
Discussion includes: Savage Axis, Ruger American, 6.5x47, 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC, 7mm Rem Mag, .30-06 AI (FMR), .375 Ruger, long range bullets and more.
18 Sep 2020
@ 10:26 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: 6.5 x 06 or 280Rem
I'd Go for the 30-06 as Nathan suggests with the Mason-Foster reamer....
I guess if you want a wildcat Cal how about a 7mm 06 ?
19 Sep 2020
@ 09:23 am (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: 6.5 x 06 or 280Rem
Warwick, a 7mm-06 is in essence a .280 Rem, though the .280 is slightly longer in the body for reasons of safety (cannot be chambered in a .270).

The .280 is certainly a good cartridge for NZ game. However I would like to see Sean study the parent .30-06 cartridge just to obtain a full insight into the family. But as you say, either 7mm or .30 would provide excellent performance.
02 Feb 2021
@ 02:05 am (GMT)

David Lenzi

Re: 6.5 x 06 or 280Rem
Not to dredge this up...but, I have some experience here. I built a .30-06 off a M70 action that may just be in line with your thinking. I considered Nathan’s experience and writing on the subject of weight and abstained from an ultra light rifle. In my search for components during the project, I learned a few things:

- it might not hold up to long strings of fire as well, but thin and fluted steel will beat Carbon wrapped for weight

- it’s possible to combine a lot of the the best, lightest gear into “regular” rifle

What I ended up with is a 4.5 kg setup (all up) - or as near 10 lbs as make no difference. That’s with a Carbon wrapped Bartlein #14 and a McMillan Game Scout with Carbon shell and Edge fill. Now, to be fair, I’ve got a 24 ounce optic on it...but that’s maybe half a pound “extra.”

I didn’t use Carbon to reduce weight (clearly), so much as control weight. I believe the original maple stock was lighter than the McM, but the ergonomics and heartiness left something to be desired. At a World War winning 10 lbs it carries “OK,” if not exceptionally well.
01 Mar 2021
@ 04:35 am (GMT)

Michael Seager

Re: 6.5 x 06 or 280Rem
I'd go 280 Rem.

I shoot a 7x64 (very similar European version)

Make sure you get a decent twist (~8.5 probably) and you can shoot light stuff (~130gr) all the way up to basically 200gr

This gives you varmint bullets, 140-160gr "deer bullets" for decent MPBR point and shoot, you can use things like 175gr partition for larger animals and pigs in the thick stuff and you can dial to your hearts content with the heavy, long slipper bullets.

(Have a look at Alliant RL26 or RS70 the heavier weight bullets)

I've got a 26" barrelled 7x64 and shot 180 ELD-Ms to 1,200yds this summer in "Any Rifle" competitions. And I didn't come last!

Best wishes,

Mike
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