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Remington 700 5R Milspec .308

14 Jul 2013
@ 08:58 am (GMT)

Scott Sharman

Hi Nathan

I picked up a 5R last week in .308. So far I've just run some some 168 SMK through it and its showing potential.

I will bed the rifle shortly but I'm wondering if you typically do any other tuning to these rifles eg re-crowning or shortening the throat.

Also do you think a 168gn bullet is better all round option than the 155gn (hunting pigs, goats, deer and shooting steel)?


14 Jul 2013
@ 05:22 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Remington 700 5R Milspec .308
Hi Scott, I simply bed the rifle, tune or replace the trigger (usually replace), run in the bore and polish the throat if need be. That is usually enough. Goal group size should be .250 to .350" with select ammo. Handloads utilizing 168gr bullets do produce best results. I have a friend in the U.S who has not been able to obtain any 168gr bullets of late, he has been using the Barnes 130gr TSX in the interim, all bullets touching at 100 yards. So again, plenty of potential.

It is unwise to shorten the throat of a .308 whether for target or hunting. The .308 needs this freebore to develop velocity without excessive pressure.

In other words, there is not a great deal that needs doing to your rifle- all good news.

Do not use the SMK for game hunting, there is a high risk of pin hole wounds (about 50% of the time during my testing). At extended ranges, if you do not hit exactly in the centre of the lungs or heart, you run the risk of wounding game, producing very slow killing, very cruel wounding. Please study the KB carefully, please read the game killing section carefully (see fast killing / frangible bullet section please).

15 Jul 2013
@ 01:32 am (GMT)

Scott Sharman

Re: Remington 700 5R Milspec .308
Thanks Nathan. Is there a common load that you've seen shoot in these rifles. I know all rifles are different but if I can narrow it down to a few bullets and powders that would be great.

Also are the groups you're quoting 3 or 5 shot.


15 Jul 2013
@ 03:46 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Remington 700 5R Milspec .308
Hi Scott, 3 shot groups, multiple groups. I try to get clients to walk away after three shots, have a break, then switch to a fresh target and start over. It can play hell with a clients nerves to keep shooting the same target. Walk away, come back and shoot a fresh 3 shot group. You could call it a 6 or 9 shot group if you wanted to?

168gr A-Max
ADI 2206H powder (H4895)
COAL 71mm
U.S made brass
Fed 210 primer (or CCI)

1 fouler at 42.5gr
42.5 x 3
43 x 3
43.5 x 3
44 x 3
44.5 x 3 (Max in some rifles, approach with caution)

Establish sweet spot, work around sweet spot in .2 grain increments if need be.

16 Jul 2013
@ 10:39 pm (GMT)

Scott Sharman

Re: Remington 700 5R Milspec .308

The 168 AMAXs are thin on the ground in the LGSs I have access to. What are your thoughts on the 155 or 178 AMAX?
17 Jul 2013
@ 05:06 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Remington 700 5R Milspec .308
Gi with the 178gr Scott. The 155gr is a very accurate bullet, especially in 12 twist barrels, but is can occasionally produce shallow penetration, depending on game and ranges.


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