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High Tech V's Low Tech

13 Jun 2018
@ 01:44 am (GMT)

bryan long

I was at Bisley shooting ground in the UK a few weeks back on the 600m range.
There was an interesting spread of gun and calibres on display.

On the right hand side of 4 lanes were some serious high tech rigs. 6.5 creedmores, .308's 6.5x55 and a few more of the usual. One Sako looked like a normal hunting rifle, the others had every kind of an add on.

One had a sled like bipod, scope mounted spirit level, mad high tech glass and all of the rifles had triggers like a computer mouse. Everything had a Mod or muzzle break.

Pretty much onyone could lie down, arrange a few cushions around the stock and themselves and hit (.5 MOA) V bulls. There was little to zedo breeze.

The highlight for me was trying getting my hands on a GRS stock to see how it felt in hand.

On the left there was 2 guys with an Enflield .303, big jackets and a sling. Those guys dialled in their open sights to hit 7's and 8's

They were really shooting, it was interesting to think how close good glass, a mod and rests might bring that antique to the most high tech guns money could buy on the right?


13 Jun 2018
@ 08:48 am (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: High Tech V's Low Tech
Hi Bryan, I have gone back to the Enfield. I use this among other rifles for training clients , especially for the more stubborn clients who refuse to see reason. The rifle has a brass butt plate, half stock but rather than being chambered for the .303 Brit, it is chambered for the more potent 7.62x54R. In other words- either listen and hold the thing properly or don't listen and go home with some very severe bruising. Its my cut through the bullshit rifle and with its current scope mount / set up can be considered to have poor ergonomic form. But it works. With Ordnance ammo, the rifle is capable of MOA accuracy, it's overall potential is the same or better than many chop shop custom rigs thanks to its excellent True-Flite barrel. Having said this, the bedding of the Enfield and design platform is not the easiest to tune but that is another factor - it is the effort we put into the platform that will determine final outcomes, not how much railing is attached to it. So the rifle is used to teach more than one concept, the platform, transferable shooting skills, the question of ergonomics and so forth. It is a rifle that can be used for perspective and acid testing technique.

So next time you see some "expert" teaching the dry hump your gun shooting methods (we have a lot of them here and still counting), just think how they would get along with this training rifle, that nice feeling of brass ripping into their shoulders, the look on their faces when the gun does not behave like their pet Creedmoors. All false confidence quickly fades when presented with rifles of this ilk.

13 Jun 2018
@ 09:14 am (GMT)

Andrew Murray

Re: High Tech V's Low Tech
That's a sweet looking rig.

I've been keen to shoot it since you have started talking about it. Also very interested in the calibre.
13 Jun 2018
@ 12:10 pm (GMT)

Paul Leverman

Re: High Tech V's Low Tech
That's one beautiful piece of ordnance. Now I know what to do with mine, seeing as how you didn't want it. I can almost feel it now. These rifles are just about perfect (can you tell I like it?). This is the first rifle I ever bought myself, I was fourteen, walked downtown, went into the Hudson's Bay store, paid $25.88 cash, and walked home with it. Have loved it ever since.
14 Jun 2018
@ 10:19 am (GMT)

Mike Davis

Re: High Tech V's Low Tech
You are right (as always) I do like her...... took me awhile to get my head around the change of cartridge but then the availability factor came into play and it made does she like the big fat round nose jobbies???
tried see through mounts on the MK3 we had years back but trajectory used to catch us out having scope so high above bore made it interesting at the 50-200 yard ranges we were trying to shoot wallabies at.
nice to see iron sights on the old girl....almost a pity to put scope on top but can see your reasoning as a training rifle....bit like a snotty old mare who bucks off young riders who dont pay attention.
14 Jun 2018
@ 09:27 pm (GMT)

bryan long

Re: High Tech V's Low Tech
I'm whincing at the high sheen polish those bruised shoulders have put on that lovely soft brass recoil pad
01 Jul 2018
@ 05:42 am (GMT)

Ricardo Laborin

Re: High Tech V's Low Tech
Sierra posted this in their Instagram account, very cool!!!!

17 Jul 2018
@ 09:53 am (GMT)

Kenneth Kephart

Re: High Tech V's Low Tech
I'm started shooting some 600 yard F-class and FTR this year.
My first match was with my Stevens 200 in 7mm-08AI. Factory stock and barrel, other than reaming the chamber and bedding. Weaver 1 piece mount, Warne low rings, and the Sightron STAC 4-20X50 with level attached.
Was shooting with a bipod (cheap Atlas knock off), rear bag and a shipping blanket for a mat.

Now, same blanket and bipod. Shooting wife's Savage 110FP in 223 Rem. Bedded, EGW 20MOA 1 piece base, Vortex Viper low rings, Vortex Crossfire II 6-18X44.

In close the 223 kicks my 7mm's butt. Add distance and wind, another story.
Of course i'm still learning shooting from prone also.
01 Aug 2018
@ 01:57 pm (GMT)

Lane Salvato

Re: High Tech V's Low Tech
When I first contacted Nathan several years ago I was wincing with my 270 and trying to make something happen with a 25-06. I guess he must have sensed that I was teachable and called me out about my technique in a subtle way. It took me a couple of days to realize he'd called me out and being a proud Texan I had to take the challenge. I got his books, began practicing, and got more (a lot more) advice from him, and ended up with a 308 for long range shooting, and a hunting stocked 338 Win. Mag. shooting 285 grain bullets.

That 338 Will thump you and you have to shoot with proper technique or it hurts. However, it's like his 303. You either shoot it right or you suffer. I don't like suffering. It's been so much fun to shoot with just a regular scope and sling. I killed a huge nilgai bull with it early spring, and had it out testing loads just this weekend. I think it qualifies as a man's rifle. Every bit of my new technique and confidence is due to Nathan's help and knowledge.


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