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So..........comments?
@ 04:57 pm (GMT) |
Paul Levermanhttps://youtu.be/l-lzvjGPgKE |
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@ 09:31 pm (GMT) |
Mike NeesonRe: So..........comments?All good stuff. Like the use of the sling. getting the elbow in front of the knee and leaning in to the sling tension. The bipod on the tree? Not sure about that but looks interesting. I like his sling design, kinda like a Ching Sling. |
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@ 12:03 am (GMT) |
Paul LevermanRe: So..........comments?I have a hard time, in most cases, listening to and watching the youtube videos about firing, loading, etc. I think it's probably being exposed to the usable info here. I was pleasantly surprised that this fellow wasn't a complete knob. The bipod on the tree looked painful, that's a lot of movable/jointed steel in your hand under recoil. But, if it's your only shot....why not? And his pad was a little low and inside on his shoulder from what I saw. Other than that, it seemed to have good body position techniques. |
@ 08:09 am (GMT) |
Martin TaylorRe: So..........comments?He has some very good videos, many teachings are very similar to Nathans, shooting with sling & over pack for example. Though in that one l don't like holding the stock hard against a solid rest, tree or board in this case.His MOA explanation is the best l've watched and easy to follow. Ryan is ex Ranger Sniper & Instructor if my memory is correct. |
@ 06:24 am (GMT) |
Luis VazquezRe: So..........comments?This video was shot in my home state of Arizona, you can tell by the Sahuaros on the hills. These Sahuaros are native to the Sonoran Deaert. In the areas I hunt most times you dont have a second to sit or kneel, by the time you position yourself the deer is long gone. Most shots are done off hand and in a matter of seconds.I do wrap my arm on the sling though and it does help, it gives you a stronger and more stable grip. In my 30+ years hunting, I have only shot one deer with the sitting position, all others were done standing up. With Javelina you sometimes do have time to position yourself since they dont see well and their hearing is not wow either, but be carefull sitting or kneeling on a cactus, ouch. I remember being 10 years old with my Dad doing rapid fire drills. He had me shoot at a Javelina Silhouette at 300 meters under 3 seconds with a 223 rem, so when we hunt the Desert Mule Deer I would not miss. These mulies only give you a couple seconds and their gone. To this date I practice mostly of hand shooting, in the desert you dont have big trees ro lean on either, and the ones we have like the Mesquite or Palo Verde well they have thorns so thats a no go. In the higher elevations we have some oak trees but they aren't big or tall enough. I guess we all adapt to our own region |
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@ 03:45 am (GMT) |
Paul LevermanRe: So..........comments?Normally, hunting for us is stalk and shoot. It's not really stalking, more like going for a walk hoping you find something. But when you do see an animal, nine times out of ten, you have time to set up, or move to a better location for a better shot. If we are hunting the rut, and call in an animal, there really is no challenge. At these times, shots are usually under 30m or so. Sometimes less than 20 feet. So you just up and plug him. A long shot for us in normal conditions is usually less than 100m, but occasionally we will have to reach out as far as 300 -400m if we are shooting across a swamp or lake. This gives us lots of time, there is no real reason to rush a shot.I'm thinking that if I were to hunt the desert mulies, I'd be going home skunked most days. |
@ 12:53 pm (GMT) |
Randy WikrisRe: So..........comments?The two variations of the sitting position and the kneeling position, along with the use of the loop sling, are all taught in USMC boot camp Primary Marksmansip Instruction. Semper Fi. They work. He didn’t get into tho prone with the sling but the loop sling works the same in that position. We were able to make headshots routinely (on targets) at 500 yards with the M16’s peep sites from the prone. All that said, the sling has to be excessively tight to make a truly stable platform. Not really practical in a hunting situation.I’ve not yet made an honest effort to use the sling in the field in my civilian life. In the few attempts that I have made, with Nathan’s inspiration, I simply demonstrated that I’ll need practice. Standing with the hasty sling is the only one that I’m likely to work on. The main draw back for me is my likelyhood to be in a snap shoot situation. Body angle changes can be slow with a sling in anything other than the standing. Not to mention the impact that clothing changes have on sling adjustments as well as how I may have my sling adjusted to comfortably cary the rifle. Thanks |
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@ 11:06 am (GMT) |
Luis VazquezRe: So..........comments?Hi Paul, to your comment on the desert mulies don't worry about the skunks, I've never seen a single live one. In the tick sonoran desert flats you shots are usually less than 50 yards and you have to walk to bump in to them or track them if possible.When hunting the coues whitetail or what we call the blacktail deer in southern Arizona, which is a deer smaller than the desert or northern mulies but larger than a coues whitetail, the shots average 200 to 400 meters, and we hunt them in late october or early novemeber which is before the rut so they are very alert and spook very easily. We hunt public land and its like you, walk and hope to see them, when possible we do some scouting to get a general idea of wherw we can find them. For us 3 out of every 5 deer harvested are taken with the deer running, and I know many hunters dont like to do this and I know many will give me a really hard time for it, but that is usually how it plays out for us. We dont get many chances to take shots at animals that are standing still. My brother and I learned to hunt like this since we were kids and very often practiced with moving targets at 200, 300 and 400 meters. We are used to constantly measuring distances as we walk so if a deer pops up we already know the distance. We also know the drop of the specific bullet and load we are hunting with so we know if we need to aim high and if so how high. Also what lead we need to give the animal based on the distance and speed of the animal. We have never lost an animal to a bad hit and I can honestly say that the one bad shot I have taken was when I was young, it was a gut shot to a coues whitetail with a 223 with a sierrra gameking and the bullet did so much damage that the deer did not run and I was able to follow up with a quick shot to the vitals and end it there. You should try a Desert Mule deer hunt in Sonora Mexico, they can be a bit expensive but its worth it. The Triple hunt where you can get a Mulie, a coues whitetail and a Javelina is very nice. I grew up in Mexico so it wasn't expensive for us at the time. |
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@ 11:09 am (GMT) |
Luis VazquezRe: So..........comments?Randy, thank you for your service Sir |
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