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Shooting over backpack
@ 07:40 am (GMT) |
Jared BreinganRecently brought Nathan's shooting book, great read so far. Lot of info, I'm learning heaps. Thanks Nathan. So after having done a bit of practice, still a lot more needed. Had the chance to try out my new technique on some pigs coming out on the back of my farm. Not long range but a good range to start about 130 yards. One thing I noticed, not at the time but thinking about afterwards was the speed at which you could change positions on uneven terrain over the backpack vs using bipod. A great help for that second shot. So after shooting the first pig I was able to quickly get back on the now running pigs and easily follow them waiting for that 'what the hell just happened stop' and drop another one. Just one advantage I hadn't thought about until now.Thanks Nathan |
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@ 08:13 am (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Shooting over backpackNice Jared. It can take a while for a person to get their head around this but once you get into the swing of things, this fundamental method can be very rewarding. We can break all of our rules later once we are aware of the consquences of each change in method.It was nice to see you at the Sika show and it was nice to see you and others supporting Clive Judd as he struggled to buck the trends and deliver his new stock design. |
@ 09:04 am (GMT) |
Sebastian ShandRe: Shooting over backpackI used to shoot over a bipod and since Nathan convinced me thru his books to try shooting over a bag I now find bipods incredibly frustrating to use.I haven't used a bipod for afew years now and just recently chucked my Harris bipod on my ar15 6.5grendel for shits and giggles. After two trips to the range and some horrific groups out of a rifle that happily shoots 10shots inside .6inch I can confirm it will be staying in the cubboard were it belongs. Thank you Nathan for pointing me in the right direction and all your hard work in helping us shooters out |
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@ 09:41 am (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Shooting over backpackThanks Sebastian. It does put me in a bind at times because I am the black sheep of the industry, the hideous voice of reason that nobody wants to hear during marketing campaigns. |
@ 01:05 pm (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: Shooting over backpackThere's only "One thing worse than Good Advice "!NOT LISTENING TO IT.......... |
@ 10:02 pm (GMT) |
Andy StewartRe: Shooting over backpackI shoot on the ranges as I shoot in the field hunting, over a bag or rolled up jacket, wrapped through the sling, off hand, jammed between the knees, prone, always through the sling, I find stuff like bipods just plain awkward bits of kit, I like to wrap into the rifle and make it an extension of me, silly things are just extra weight and not much use shooting up and down in genuine steep country. |
@ 06:37 am (GMT) |
Daniel MathesonRe: Shooting over backpackI to have just read Nathans book and have been practicing his over the back pack method. I have been having troubles getting the knack of the rear bag not being held by my support hand. It seems that the T.A.B. rear bag I have been using is not big enough or firm enough to let me crush the rifle down firmly.Also when I do fire a shot I have to reposition the rear bag and start again.Any suggestions? |
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@ 07:10 am (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Shooting over backpackHi Daniel, just keep at it. If you need to, you can skype me and have me check you over via screen share if and when time allows. |
@ 08:12 am (GMT) |
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@ 05:40 pm (GMT) |
Andrew MurrayRe: Shooting over backpackI managed this off my back pack this morning. Using a towel as a rear rest.
There are 5 shots on the right hand group. The total size is 0.3inches. The 4 in 1 hole measured just 9mm across. That's under 0.1MOA. The left hand group which I shot first is just under 0.5inches. The next lot of groups I shout were closer to 3 inches. Heat and muscle fatigue I imagine, stopping me from getting and maintaining proper form. I should show you the others but I am not sure at this point what caused them to open up suffice to say I think it was fatigue. |
@ 06:47 pm (GMT) |
Thomas KitchenRe: Shooting over backpackthought i would mention thisa young guy down the line brought a tikka in 260 the other day, i told him i had bit of 7-08 brass he could have to convert to 260. i asked how it was shooting he was saying he had real issues consistency, knowing the guys he know straight away i asked him if he was using a bipod? yeah bipod and a dirty mention of a brake or a suppressor, think he got the picture when i told "the best thing i find with bipods are they are light enough to throw in a lake but heavy enough they sink to the bottom" gave him some basic tips but he decided it was best to buy Nathan's book. looking forwards to seeing the results and catching up with him in couple months so ill do an update when i hear more. keep up the good work Nathan i owe you big time, i would be lost without your books that's great shooting Andrew is that with hand loads? |
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@ 10:29 pm (GMT) |
Andrew MurrayRe: Shooting over backpackBelieve it or not it's factory. Winchester 308 PowerPoint 150gr.I mainly bought it for the brass but wanted to assess POI so I could adjust the scope, I am heading off to the bush soon and I will take this load until I can get my hand loads happening (after Christmas). |
@ 12:17 am (GMT) |
Paul LevermanRe: Shooting over backpackThat's amazing, Andrew. Awesome control all around. The only way I've ever gotten groups like that were with a pencil on my workbench. Congratulations! |
@ 02:50 am (GMT) |
mark korteRe: Shooting over backpackGents (and ladies)I totally agree with the backpack/fore end holding style of shooting - where its applicable. The problem I see (and where bipods/shooting sticks can help) is when one has to shoot over vegetation or topography where lying prone just doesn't work. Where I hunt, lying prone for the shot is a luxury I've only indulged in when hunting prong horns. When hunting whitetails for instance, I mostly hunt sitting for long periods of time, often in very cold temps. Trying to rest your rifle across your legs and staying as immobile as possible for long periods of time is impossible, at least for me. A bipod or shooting sticks allows one to rest the gun in a shooting position and when the moment comes (and you often don't know precisely where the animal is going to appear) get into the rifle with an absolute minimum of movement and take the shot. Trying to squirm around to get settled into a backpack would get you a scope full of vegetation as well as a big white flag in your face and who knows how long another wait lying on the frozen ground. I use shooting sticks and hold the juncture of the sticks/fore arm with my hand. I would not try any fancy, long shots like this, but under the conditions involved it works great for me. Just a thought. |
@ 03:45 am (GMT) |
Bryan WebsterRe: Shooting over backpackI use the backpack mostly in open areas, or a nearby tree if needed. However from a ground stand with lots of high vegetation around, but no tree to use, I tend to use a shooting stick of any length needed. Either one stick or a couple joined with string or tape will do fine. |
@ 04:36 am (GMT) |
Peter BjerregaardRe: Shooting over backpackHi MarkI have the same vegetation/snow troubles as you have. I mostly hunt sitting. For longish shots I use a tripod shooting stick, though I hold the rifle on forehand in front of shooting stick junction. Get it locked down as to get rid of the 'hug-myself-bipod-jump', just like shooting off a backpack. Often I use the sling as well, you can rest your left elbow in the sling getting those cold muscles relaxed. Try both methods at the range. I really see a difference at 300 m/330 yards. Especially in the cold if slightly shivering. But of course it's fine line before muscling the rifle. |
@ 03:29 pm (GMT) |
Lane SalvatoRe: Shooting over backpackThe backpack method is the most accurate method I've found thanks to Nathan's books. I've always found bipods to be impractical. Tried short and long ones in a couple of configurations. Read Nathan's books and took them all off and started using a backpack. |
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@ 03:29 pm (GMT) |
Lane SalvatoRe: Shooting over backpackThe backpack method is the most accurate method I've found thanks to Nathan's books. I've always found bipods to be impractical. Tried short and long ones in a couple of configurations. Read Nathan's books and took them all off and started using a backpack. |
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