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New 358 barrels

09 Dec 2015
@ 10:52 am (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

I rang True Flight barrels and asked Grant if they made them in .358cal lol he says Nathan Foster's been nagging me and so I'm going to make them. Haha Grant said that he thinks he has everything to make them organised and to call back in the new year when they'll start to offer them. I went to the hunting shop today and when asked if I was alright I said have you got any 358 Winchester? The guy produced a very dusty well handled box of Winchester silver tips. They are a big and gnarly looking bullet.

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09 Dec 2015
@ 05:13 pm (GMT)

Thomas Kitchen

Re: New 358 barrels
hi warwick
you going to be doing the 358 cal?

Nathan had mentioned to me a while ago that trueflite was going to do a 358 cal after he had convinced them to, wasn't sure if it was public information or not yet.
i also emailed grant couple weeks ago and they were in final stages of testing with production starting early next year as you have mentioned.

i believe they'll offer 358win 35 whelen 358 norma magnum and 35 samba (358/300 wsm) chambering

my reamer 35/303 turned up the other week she's a beaut

09 Dec 2015
@ 05:31 pm (GMT)

Ben Grady

Re: New 358 barrels
Awesome Thomas, you should start a new thread so we can follow the progress from the start. Are you using your Enfield P14 action or a Lee Enfield action?
Keep us informed.
10 Dec 2015
@ 01:13 am (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: New 358 barrels
Hey Thomas. yes I do want to. As always it's deciding which way to go. I have decided that if I Do a custom build I might as well go all out crazy 358 x 55 and be the Panther which would have to be a big $$$$ build and will have to wait until I'm back mining next year.
But haha I hate buts. If I was smart I would do some reading and research.(have done) The easiest way is to get either a 358 Winchester or 35 Whelen possibly Improved by rebarreling a 308 or 30-06. Boring I know but! Haha it will work with little fuss and is a Sami cartridge.
The 35/303 is going to be sweet man! I have a few three oh's in the cupboard. I'm still doing the maths. Them reamers sure are Purdy! I hope you not sleeping with them under ya pillow? Tease us with some pictures mate and some tight groupings
Stupid gun guy said 358 Winchester only good for really close bush hunting. I said that I have the 44.40 WCF for that . Suggested that he did some research on 358 Winchesters ballistics performance.! I'm thinking that it's the old Land Rover of the gun world. ..? Nothing better than pulling out a flash modern 4 x 4 with an old Landy ha ha
10 Dec 2015
@ 06:08 am (GMT)

Thomas Kitchen

Re: New 358 barrels
hi guys.

yes ben i need to do a big write up about the journey so far, hopefully i can get sometime soon been trying to keep a record and take photo's etc as i go.

ha ha warwick got 35/303, head space gauges and 308 norma mag reamer at once felt like christmas when your young all over again.
as for sleeping with them under the pillow, not sure i would get that pass the wife, its bad enough after i spent a lot of time working on a gun or reloading, and she says something like "sometimes i wonder if you need me as you got your guns" now my gut feeling, i have a hunch, rumour has it that "but who would cook and clean if you left" isn't the right response ha ha.

after reading your comment warwick it got me thinking, so i dug my p14 out of the safe, this one is getting convert to 308 norma magnum (and yes im wondering if i should be using that to build a 35/303)
anyway i ran some dummy 35/303 rounds through it perfect feeding.
if you want something different but not sure on a lee enfield see if you can track down a p14, you can then use my reamer, i can also get 2nd set of dies when i order my lee custom ones to, reducing the cost but giving you something different and interesting.
it means you can use things like timney triggers, easy to mount scopes, boyd stocks, and the accuracy would be there specially with a match grade barrel.
just an idea, saves the reamer costs.
11 Dec 2015
@ 11:32 pm (GMT)

jason

Re: New 358 barrels
Why buy your own reamer?
Is it so you get the best tool not a worn one for the job, or simply because the gunsmith doesn't have one?
Does it cost more for him to get one so your better to get it yourself?
12 Dec 2015
@ 08:26 am (GMT)

Thomas Kitchen

Re: New 358 barrels
hi jason.
being a wildcat the reamer had to be custom as i don't believe gunsmith would have one.
me and Nathan discussed few options to try and avoid needing to get custom reamer, but in the end it just seemed like the best option.
not to sure if gunsmiths have a good deal going with reamers makers but at a guess if i paid for the gunsmith to organize it plus the mark up i would be no better off.
not sure if with one off jobs gunsmiths charge full price for reamer and client gets reamer or not??
by doing it myself it means i can rent it out if anyone's interested to try and offset some of the cost.
i really need to start a thread as i believe i have hi jacked another of your threads sorry warwick
12 Dec 2015
@ 07:32 pm (GMT)

jason

Re: New 358 barrels
Ok. That makes sence. I often see guys getting them and wondered why.
13 Dec 2015
@ 11:37 am (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: New 358 barrels
Hey no problem Thomas. It happens and as long as it adds to the knowledge of this community it's all good mate .
14 Dec 2015
@ 09:20 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: New 358 barrels
So the cat is out of the bag.

For a long time, I have wanted to have NZ made .358 barrels here, available for kiwi's. To this end, I asked Grant at True-Flite if he would be willing to obtain tooling for barrel making while I would obtain and donate reamers to True-Flite and therefore to NZ hunters.

These days there is a great deal of talk in NZ about bush guns but few people actually adopt bush cartridges, Instead, a bush gun is merely some poor rifle butchered until is little more than a small bore pistol. Subsonic is the new big thing too- much of this interest born purely out of boredom without any interest in fast / effective game killing. It is my hope that the .358 barrels and reamers will give our hunters new interests- but of a most effective nature.

The .358 bore is simply wonderful for bush work, a clean killing bore suited to a wide range of game body weights while working extremely well across a wide velocity range. You have to understand that the KB on this website remains unbalanced until I upload my medium bore work. It only shows a part of the picture. But I had to write the book series to put food on the table and clothes on our backs before I could complete the KB- its just how it has worked out.

The reamers are in mid production now. Dave Manson will give me a discount as a way of donating to the site as he feels the site is of great benefit to hunters. Form there, if you want to build a .358 in NZ, you can use one of the reamers supplied or use a combo of reamers to mock up more interesting designs such as a .35 Whelen reamer (second cut) over a 6.5x55 reamer (first cut) to make a .358 X 55. However, please keep in mind that the basic options we have provided will be more than enough to cover your needs. if you want to be creative, the basic adoption of a standard .358 chambering is enough to open ones eyes to the merits of the .35 without having to adopt anything too wild or woolly. As an example, those wanting high power can adopt the .358 Norma. This can be housed on a variety of actions without too many problems with regards to magazine lengths, whether that be Tikka, Howa, Mauser Parker Hale etc, Ruger and Savage, the list goes on.

I have set the throat lengths on all of our reamers so that they are neither too long nor short. The bullet will enter the lands when it is roughly halfway out of the case neck. This will allow for maximum velocity generation without any loss in accuracy -all other factors being equal. Bullet jump will be somewhat like the .308 Win.
14 Dec 2015
@ 11:26 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: New 358 barrels
Thanks Nathan . You have given so much to the shooting community of the world. We all owe you and Steph a huge thank you for all the time and effort to make sure we get the best information possible . Hopefully the community have and will show their appreciation and give back the generosity. Cheers mate.
18 Dec 2015
@ 06:15 am (GMT)

Eloy Vilavella

Re: New 358 barrels
I have several rifles in 358 and they all are fast killing machines. Lots of air in, and lots of blood out.
I never understood why the 358 win has not been more popular while it offers superior terminal power to the 308 at the distances most folks hunt and beyond and in shorter more compact rifles.
Like the whelen it is a great cartrige for deer, hogs but also for the largest and toughest game including large elk, moose and grizzly. Heavy tsx or partitions will take care of business with the moderate distances in the thick northern woods.
I am now working on a new 358/300WSM cat in case a trex trophy shows up. Lol
Even the little 35x39 in 17" became a nice 200 yd deer busting carbine.

Glad to learn more folks are getting into the wonderful and versatile 358 bore.

Just watch out. It is addictive.
07 Jan 2016
@ 11:55 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: New 358 barrels
Here's a link to a blurb about the. 358 what do you all think about this blokes facts and opinions?

content://com.sec.android.app.sbrowser/savepage/1225195149.mhtml
08 Jan 2016
@ 12:18 am (GMT)

Bob Mavin

Re: New 358 barrels
My favorite hunting caliber 358 Winchester. Some good info

http://milpas.cc/rifles/ZFiles/Misc/358%20Winchester/The%20358%20Winchester.html

Bob
10 Jan 2016
@ 07:39 am (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: New 358 barrels
Found this for a read? http://35cal.com/
10 Jan 2016
@ 07:44 am (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: New 358 barrels
Heck whats the BC of a Moose at 55mph ?

http://35cal.com/moosecollision_dec.04.html
 

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