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remingon 700 sps or adl

16 Oct 2015
@ 08:22 pm (GMT)

trevor savage

so, im buying a new rifle. selling my ar15 and going back to a 7mm08 or 308 dont know what one yet.

anyway as a start i will get a remington 700 staleness steel
should i go for the sps or the adl.
i dont mind having a blind mag.
The ald is heaps cheaper and give me more money for an new stock.

in nz whats a good middle of the road stock? bodys?

this will be a semi custom build in time but need a rifle i can shoot untill i can do the next thing on the list like trigger, stock, barrel,

also thanks, your books are a great help.

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17 Oct 2015
@ 01:47 am (GMT)

trevor savage

Re: remingon 700 sps or adl
Also how are the howa rifles when it comes to working on them. Seems like very good bang for buck
17 Oct 2015
@ 05:27 am (GMT)

Thomas Kitchen

Re: remingon 700 sps or adl
hi Trevor
i suggest you look at all the different stocks you may want and check which models they are available in.
the remington stocks seem to be of reasonable shape so you may want to look at stabilizing and bedding also.
most rifles are covered in Nathans book,
check out this link once again martin has done a very helpful thread for everyone to have a look at http://www.ballisticstudies.com/Resources/Discussion+Forums/x_forum/17/thread/6584.html
18 Oct 2015
@ 12:11 am (GMT)

Brendon Greig

Re: remingon 700 sps or adl
Hi guys i know the big thing now is to go synthetic these days but im a bit old fashioned and still like the wooden, i made a walnut stock from scratch (pillar bedded with Nathans product) for my Remington model 700 it was my first go and was 400 grams heaver than the synthetic stock it came with, with what i learnt i believe i could make the next one a little bit lighter
18 Oct 2015
@ 12:27 am (GMT)

trevor savage

Re: remingon 700 sps or adl
I like nice heavy rifles. What I like is the remington r5 but not the price. the Vermont /tac rifles but in stanless steel would be nice. The only good way to get what I want might be a remimgton 700 adl and custom stock and barrel. The sad thing is that if I hadn't had at least 6 other rifles over the last 5 years I could have a semi custom rifle by now.
18 Oct 2015
@ 12:31 am (GMT)

trevor savage

Re: remingon 700 sps or adl
Some of the body's stocks look good. All I see in nz is CRAP from gun city. And $1000+ From other places
Who imports good stocks in nz
18 Oct 2015
@ 12:36 am (GMT)

trevor savage

Re: remingon 700 sps or adl
Sorry boyds stock
18 Oct 2015
@ 07:33 am (GMT)

Thomas Kitchen

Re: remingon 700 sps or adl
hi trevor.
if you go on the boyds newsletter mailing list you will get emailed when they have specials im currently waiting for a tikka left hand stock and a mauser stock to come on special so i can get them out of the states ( if any Americans reading this your sitting on a gold mine if you could export stocks to nz)
besides the boyds your looking at the higher price for anything else, there is now senatorstocks and stug stocks that are made in nz but not sure how they are made so you'll have to check.
have a look at the remington long range rifle unfortunately not stainless but i believe they give you a nice stock??
or you could go custom or home made like brendon has. any photo's brendon sounds interesting
18 Oct 2015
@ 08:50 pm (GMT)

Martin Taylor

Re: remingon 700 sps or adl
Trev, l would happily build another new SS Howa or Remington both will work up nicely.

If your a little tight on funds and want new, l would build a Howa, being mindful that after market options are fewer. Our latest two are working up to be really great shooters but we have done full work ups on them, following Nathans book instructions.

You could always put up an add, wanted second hand SS Varmint or 5R and see if you get any response's.
Dan at Reloaders, he maybe able to get you onto something or know of one coming up. Over here there is always plenty of 308's kicking around and l would think NZ would be the same.

As for the Boyd's, l thought you guys could get them sent in the mail like we can? They post any stock under $99 US to OZ with no fuss.
19 Oct 2015
@ 10:39 pm (GMT)

Brendon Greig

Re: remingon 700 sps or adl
Quote:
hi trevor.
if you go on the boyds newsletter mailing list you will get emailed when they have specials im currently waiting for a tikka left hand stock and a mauser stock to come on special so i can get them out of the states ( if any Americans reading this your sitting on a gold mine if you could export stocks to nz)
besides the boyds your looking at the higher price for anything else, there is now senatorstocks and stug stocks that are made in nz but not sure how they are made so you'll have to check.
have a look at the remington long range rifle unfortunately not stainless but i believe they give you a nice stock??
or you could go custom or home made like brendon has. any photo's brendon sounds interesting

I am going to try to work out how to load the photos but my computer skills are some what limited
19 Oct 2015
@ 11:27 pm (GMT)

Brendon Greig

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19 Oct 2015
@ 11:33 pm (GMT)

Brendon Greig

Re: remingon 700 sps or adl
sorry guys photos are a little big and back to front but you can still see it i spent close to 100 hours making the stock and pillar bedding with Nathans product but most articles i watched and read said it takes about 60 hours took me a bit longer as i had to work out what i was doing [b]
20 Oct 2015
@ 06:56 am (GMT)

Brendon Greig

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20 Oct 2015
@ 07:14 am (GMT)

trevor savage

Re: remingon 700 sps or adl
So I think I will go with the remaining 700 sps stainless in 7mm08. Thanks for the info about the stocks. Brendon that's some good looking work you've done there. Love the photos.
27 Oct 2015
@ 08:31 pm (GMT)

Clive Judd

Re: remingon 700 sps or adl
Hi Trevor,

A bit late in the day for a reply to the post. In reference to BDL vs ADL - if you are going to run with standard BDL bottom metal from Remington and are covering rough country ie steep bush, then there is more chance of it coming open through contact with scrub etc and have your rounds fall out. With the ADL you get 100% retention ie no chance. I found this out when professionally culling so for the most part harder country than most folk would go through. However if you like the look of the BDL then there are bottom metal upgrades that are more secure if that's an issue for you. The other consideration is that you can start with an ADL and easily inlet for BDL if you change your mind.
Personally for a hunting rifle that requires only a few rounds I will always use an ADL now.
27 Oct 2015
@ 10:48 pm (GMT)

Bryan Webster

Re: remingon 700 sps or adl
Have used a BDL for thirty or more years and have never had that issue of the floor plate coming open on me.

We have in our family had magazines fall out and get lost though.
28 Oct 2015
@ 01:03 am (GMT)

Clive Judd

Re: remingon 700 sps or adl
Hi Bryan, nature of the beast some times isnt it. Not sure if quality has changed over the years but its something that has happened to me, and if your moving in extremely rough terrain in the bush then it can happen. Aside from that during general use iv never had a problem either.
28 Oct 2015
@ 06:15 am (GMT)

Bryan Webster

Re: remingon 700 sps or adl
The BDL I mentioned is the only older Remington 700 I have and the mag release is pretty darned tough to open. Perhaps newer ones are looser or have a spring that is not up to the job.

My Model 700p LTR in .308 is more recent and although I have not noted how tight the mag release is, I will definitely check it out and find a fix if it needs one.

28 Oct 2015
@ 11:58 pm (GMT)

Clive Judd

Re: remingon 700 sps or adl
After posting my comment however I am also considering how Trevor may intend to use it also that a hard knock could of created the extra sensitivity on my floorplate.

The models with plastic trigger guards on the ADL made it impossible to achieve a set torque on the action screws because the screw would just keep turning till it was right through the floor plate. Such rifles could be impossible to make accurate without a change of trigger guard. So consider that when assessing an ADL.

On the flip side, an ADL is a good way to get started with an M700 action at a low price. But not good if the end user cannot obtain BDL bottom metal or a replacement trigger guard in his country (as was the way here for many years), and if you are to post inlet then the cost of in-letting brings the price past that of a BDL to start with. Ultimately Trevor a good decision going with an SPS.

 

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