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Rifle scope fit

05 Sep 2015
@ 04:14 am (GMT)

Russell Dahlberg

Hello, I'm hoping you can help me get my head around something, I realize this may be covered in one of Nathans books as I only have some of them so far.

First off I'm shooting a ruger hawkeye with laminated stock with a bushnell elite 3x9x40 mounted as low as possible (it's so close to the barrell I can't get the lens cover on).

I am a small person, short skinny and only weigh around 60kg.

When I'm shooting prone I have to hold my head up, not off the rifle just sort of bending my neck back from its natural position, I have been experimenting with the natural point of aim theory and before shooting fully relaxing then opening my eyes to see if I'm still on target, every time I find I have to tilt my head back to line my eye up with the scope.
I am thinking this can't be good for repeatable cheek weld and I have to sort of rock my head back and forth untill I get a clear scope.

Is this normal or do I need a raised cheek piece, although the rifle seams to fit perfect while shooting standing I find the scope to eye alignment excellent.
Can you have a stock that fitts in all positions.
Or have I got some fundamental shooting position faults.

I have never been taught anything, I'm self taught from experience and the Internet so probably the worst teachers ever but I don't know any one that shoots well.

Thanks in advance for any help.


05 Sep 2015
@ 09:50 am (GMT)

Mike Davis

Re: Rifle scope fit
well if it comes up nice when standing,she be great for quick shots in tight bush...leave it be if thats your main way of hunting......
as for shooting prone......hmmmmm work around it eg dont do it that way, shoot over something instead if it gets posture comfortable and lets you line up better go with it and see what happens.
try getting rifle higher off ground with a backpack (see hold that fore end) and put something under your chest to help keep you in position would be my first suggestion.
plenty of rifles get sighted in leaning over a ute bonnet.....not the optimum but not the worst way either. have you tried loosening scope rings and moving scope back or forward to see if you can find happy medium???
07 Sep 2015
@ 09:53 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Rifle scope fit
Hi Russell, I am just in the throws of finishing this final book on technique. The final steps now are editing and formatting for print. We have been putting in long days, trying to get this out as soon as possible.

There is so much to this that I don't want to, in one post, try to address all of the factors involved in an optimum prone position. having said this, I will say that yes, the prone position can cause you to have to shift your head in the manner that you are speaking of. Even without a rifle, if you were to lay on your belly and look through binos (or even watch TV), the neck has to be craned back. This may cause strain if you are not used to it. A soft cheek rest can help to some extent.

There is a great difference between natural posture and movement and what becomes natural movement with repetition. It is the same in all things. The novice struggles to make a fist. When he throws a punch, his muscles are tight and he also over extends and strains his arms. No matter how hard he tries, the movements seem awkward and lack power. The experienced practitioner leads from the feet first, then the hips, the punch moves naturally after this. He conserves energy until the final moment and strikes well within his reach. To him, after countless hours of training, this is a natural movement. The same applies to the apprentice versus the tradesman.
08 Sep 2015
@ 06:08 am (GMT)

Russell Dahlberg

Re: Rifle scope fit
Thanks for the replies,
Nathan, I reread your 1st book and picked up a couple of hints in there and read your hold that for end post again, I have changed my position slightly, I think I was trying to be to low to the ground so I have moved my support elbow more under the rifle slightly which has made it feel more natural and I also have a much better scope eye alignment.
I am looking foward to your next book, I have a fair few more questions about technique but will wait to read the book before bugging you with questions.



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