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Rem 700 half cock
@ 03:01 pm (GMT) |
Matt ReidHi there,Just a query regarding the half cock position on the Rem 700. I have an sps in .308. It has been set up for longer range use but am also using it in the bush. I have traditionally used the h/c position during stalking. However I have noticed (may be specific to my rifle), any light pressure on the trigger in this position releases firing pin, which then means when the bolt is closed the pin ends up in the un-cocked position. This was part of what cost me the last deer I had a chance at. Close bolt, aim, pull trigger... nothing happened... furiously work another round in... deer not keen to stick around. Is there a solution to this, or a work-around? I have generally been hesitant to hunt with loaded/safety combo. The trigger is the standard Rem offering. Cheers, Matt |
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@ 10:54 am (GMT) |
Dan KeeneRe: Rem 700 half cockHi Matt,The 'half cock' can be added to your bolt by a gunsmith. Go to Arthur Clelland 07 843 7858. He is in Hamilton (so not far away from you). He is an excellent gunsmith and well priced. Cheers, Dan. |
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@ 12:38 pm (GMT) |
Matt ReidRe: Rem 700 half cockHi Dan, yeah Arthur´s only 5 mins from my work so get to see him a bit. As it stands, the rifle has a half cock (albiet not a solid one). The issue I was referring to was it un-cocking in the h/c position. Therefore when the bolt is closed to take the shot, the bolt is deactivated. Not sure if i am making sense here ? |
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@ 01:28 pm (GMT) |
Dan KeeneRe: Rem 700 half cockOK. Pass. I am interested to hear what Arthur has to say.Cheers. |
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@ 10:06 pm (GMT) |
im2lazyRe: Rem 700 half cockYeah a gunsmith will be able to give you a real 1/2 cock. Then it will be you that's away laughing not the deer. |
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@ 09:48 am (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Rem 700 half cockFrom time to time I am asked to add half cocks to M700 rifles. The process involves nothing more than cutting a notch in the bolt body which arrests the movement of the bolt at that point. The trouble with the notch and the M700 design is that it allows the bolt to sit far enough forwards as to engage the top 'main sear' (the sear that you can see in the raceway). This sear is pushed down a tad, engaging the trigger sear. If the trigger is pulled, the main sear drops but cannot return upwards due to the slight weight of the bolt cocking piece resting against it. I guess I could take a main sear and hone it forwards a tad to prevent this early engagement. The concern is the decrease in firing pin travel / inertia / ignition. I have a few spare main sears though, so no probs if it doesn't work. Arthur will be the same, he will have a few main sears floating around to experiment with.The other option is to actually get used to stalking with the safety. This is all about procedures. The first step is to simply test the reliability of the safety (the Remington safeties are good). cock the rifle on an empty chamber and then bounce the butt pad on the ground. You can bounce it progressivley harder, as hard as you are comfortable with, mimicking dropping the rifle in the field. Then disengage the safety and do the same test all over again. Try engaging the safety, pulling the trigger hard, then disengaging the trigger. Also try fast cycling of the action to see if it tries to slam fire (nothing to do with the safety mechanism but important nonetheless). These tests will give you confidence in the safety mechanism and the trigger unit in general. Once you know that the mechanism is sound, you will find it perfectly adequate for stalking. Beyond this, stalking procedures are the key, constant routine checks etc. If hunting in pairs, one hunter up front, one stays in the rear. The rear hunter has nothing in the chamber, usual stuff. A third option is to purchase a Mauser style 3 position safety. Arthur can get this for you from PTG. This is far safer than a half cock. |
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@ 01:23 pm (GMT) |
Matt ReidRe: Rem 700 half cockThanks Nathan. The release of the main sear is what i was getting at and sounds like it is normal. It´s good to hear the Rem safetys are reasonably sound and looks like that might be the easiest way to go.Cheers, Matt. |
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