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@ 12:32 pm (GMT) |
Francis SaundersI have just ploughed through the first of Nathan's first book. (Thanks the turned up well in advance) really good read! Really worth every penny and I'll be returning to it for reference and rereading.Now I have a BSA Cf2 rifle that I plan on rebuilding. What are the pit falls in regards to action hardness and blue printing? What experance have you had in tricking up these rifles? Or is it not worth the trouble and just start from scratch with rem 700 action.. Cheers Francis[/b] |
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@ 02:44 am (GMT) |
Martin TaylorRe: BSA CF2 buildI did a bedding job on one of these for a fella last year Francis and l think your Remington Idea is the much better option by far.As said many times here, it isn't possible to beat the aftermarket parts availability and they are simply the easiest rifle to bed & tune, etc. |
@ 04:02 am (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: BSA CF2 buildHi Francis, the actions were well made. Will pay to check the trigger on yours to see if it is the cheaper sheet metal jobby, I get my models mixed up.You will have to check if anyone has a jig for blueprinting in your local. May not need it though. Check that the mag length is suitable for the cartridge you intend to employ, check that the stock pitch is suitable for the recoil level (the BSA's had quite a drop at the heel / high recoil if you adopt a potent cartridge). Check that you have suitable bases and rings if the rifle is to be used out long (suitable for canting etc). If the rifle meets your criteria then yes. if not, put the BSA aside for a one day fun project and start over with the likes of the Remmy etc. |
@ 06:55 am (GMT) |
Thomas KitchenRe: BSA CF2 buildHi Francisyou got great advice there. just wondering what caliber is rifle currently and what caliber are you thinking of changing it to?? |
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@ 02:52 pm (GMT) |
Francis SaundersRe: BSA CF2 buildSorry for the late replie..Was on a plane. The CF2 is in .243 cal.. But without the roll over comb. Had one in .270 cal back one the 1990s which kicked the living day lights out of me. From all research it looks like they where made the old way. Milled from a solid round steel built. That is while I was asking about the blue printing. Would like the have the new chamber in 7x57 or 8x57. Still looking into barrel length chamber dimensions and stainless v chrome. Thanks again for the books. The information is awesome. Will be rereading the bits on stock and barrel dimentions. Also scope mounts for 30 inch di. Cheers again Francis |
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@ 08:34 am (GMT) |
Thomas KitchenRe: BSA CF2 buildhi Francis.i always forget the order of bsa models is this one before or after the monarch? i helped my mate out with finding a cheap 2nd hand rifle he ended up with a monarch in 270win i really like that rifle and was impressed with the trigger for such an old girl. just bouncing ideas around and hoping to gain more knowledge from experience guys in the process. would a 7-08 be another option? my thinking is there would be less modification to action if any as its same case as 243. other thought being is if magazine length is restricted by using a shorter round you might be able to seat a projectile like an amax base to bottom of case neck and use full capacity of case. really hope im not adding more confusion to the situation and sorry if i have |
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@ 06:13 pm (GMT) |
Francis SaundersRe: BSA CF2 buildQuote: hi Francis.
i always forget the order of bsa models is this one before or after the monarch? i helped my mate out with finding a cheap 2nd hand rifle he ended up with a monarch in 270win i really like that rifle and was impressed with the trigger for such an old girl. just bouncing ideas around and hoping to gain more knowledge from experience guys in the process. would a 7-08 be another option? my thinking is there would be less modification to action if any as its same case as 243. other thought being is if magazine length is restricted by using a shorter round you might be able to seat a projectile like an amax base to bottom of case neck and use full capacity of case. really hope im not adding more confusion to the situation and sorry if i have Hi Thomas Year the models went Hunter, Majestic, Monarch and CF2. BSA went bust around 1982. The CF2 had a long action for all calibers from 222 to 300 mag. So magazine length is not a problem. I can get quite few of the parts from a store here in the UK from Jhon Kibbs international. I'm not really into the 7-08 as every man and his dog seems to have one. So more looking at the older calibers. They seem to have been doing the job for 100 years or more so a few more with me? Why not! If I can get it to shot out to 500 yards then goody. But at present just doing the research so that I can have most of my T and I's crossed when it comes to the build. Looking now into barrel profiles. Cheers Francis |
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@ 07:57 am (GMT) |
Thomas KitchenRe: BSA CF2 buildthat makes a lot of sense francis specially if parts are readily available.some cartridges were just designed right from the start. its a real shame bsa went bust and parker hale no longer makes rifles. i remember my grand father telling me in his scottish/english accent that to him (a mechanic) the saddest day in British history was the day jaguar got sold off. i'm sure some shooters felt the same way when bsa went under. Nathan can be very helpful with matching barrel weight to hunting situation, to caliber to recoil. plus twist rate for projectiles, i would recommend getting his thoughts on it even if it just narrows down the choices. best of luck ill be keeping an eye out for updates as its very interesting project |
@ 10:51 am (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: BSA CF2 buildHi FrancisHave you chosen a caliber yet? 30-06 would cover many situations and provide you a wide variety of projectiles to use? I think one of my dad's 303s is a BSA The others a Parker Hale. Keep us posted . |
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@ 05:41 am (GMT) |
Francis SaundersRe: BSA CF2 buildQuote: Hi Francis
Have you chosen a caliber yet? 30-06 would cover many situations and provide you a wide variety of projectiles to use? I think one of my dad's 303s is a BSA The others a Parker Hale. Keep us posted . Hi Warwick I have nothing against the 30-06, but I want something that is a little more personal. Not something that every man and his dog may have. Please don't take that the wrong way as I've used the 30,06 and its is a fine round that will do all you ask of it if you do your part. But the 7x57 just sounds a little more old school. With the UK laws you can't just buy rifles and sell them as you wish. You need to informe the police and convince them that you have need of it. Then they come and talk to you and then may or may not grant them on your ticket. So you need to have a jolly good think before advancing in any direction. The bonus is that this stops the inpluse buy which has the knock on effect of keeping second hand rifle prices quite low. There is of course then the gun magazine knock on effect of needing all the new kit. This then can lead the new buyer right up the garden path, as each writer will be endorsing the lates rifle. Nathan has covered this as I am sure you are aware. I am at present just sorting through the ticket process. Wish me luck! Cheers Francis |
@ 01:38 pm (GMT) |
Bryan WebsterRe: BSA CF2 buildHere in Canada it is not easy to find decent 7x57 brass these days.It seems there is no problem in the USA getting it but we cannot order brass from companies there. |
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@ 05:07 pm (GMT) |
Francis SaundersRe: BSA CF2 buildUp date. Well I'm having the blot jewelled and the extractor arm blued at present. The barrel is in the post from True-Flite NZ I've got a lovely piece of NZ walnut that has a beautiful fiddle running up its length. Before I start to have this cut, I take it that it would be best to have my scope set up sorted so that the stock can be cut to fit this set up? I'm looking at getting a Sightron 4x16x42. I'll have the stock bedded using Nathan's good stuff. It will then be oiled. Should I bed and oil last or oil first and bed second?? What are your thoughts guys. Cheers Francis |
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@ 09:27 pm (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: BSA CF2 buildHi Francis, as long as the wood is stable, you can bed, then teak oil it.Main factors- make sure the timber is fully seasoned, bed the rifle, then oil it and get say 3 coats on over 24 hours, keeping the rifle relatively warm throughout, then reassemble. If you leave it too long (assembly), there is a risk of warping. If you want to cheat, bed the rifle, oil the internals lightly and leave to cure for a few hours at a modest heat, then apply a heavy coat to the internals (as you see on some factory stocks), then assemble the rifle. Following this, apply your outer coats with the rifle assembled. All depends on how much faith you have in the seasoning of the timber. Our bedding compound is tough but mother nature did a good job of making sure the fibers within walnut are also tough and I would not want to pit the two against each other in a battle for control. |
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