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23 May 2012
@ 10:19 pm (GMT)

greg street

Looking at putting a bell and carlson medalist stock on my Tikka t3 will I need to bed it aswell? This is stage 1 of making my long range rifle.


26 May 2012
@ 10:21 am (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: bell and carlson
Hi Greg, it does pay to bed the T3 after fitting and aftermarket stock, just to make sure that the floating ali recoil lug is properly aligned with the front of the action rebate while remaining clear (relieved) at the top and rear faces of the lug.

If you are planning to re-barrel in the near future, the bedding work should be left until the new barrel is fitted so that the bedding can be extended into the knox form (first inch of the barrel) to dampen whip.

Occasionally, the T3 is sought after as a long range rifle but in 'some' instances, the ultra thin barrel, while normally excellent, can suffer from over heating if the rifle is shot in strings. Therefore if you intend to shoot long strings (say 6 shots plus) as part of practice, it pays to utilize either a heavy barrelled Tikka or rebarrel to a more desirable contour. For the hunter seeking ultra light weight utilizing the existing T3 barrel contour for long range shooting, the key is to shoot practice strings very slowly. This can involve a practice session consisting of several hours where not many shots are taken in total- but a lot of time is put into observation, both of your technique and environmental factors etc. Same goes for load development sessions, slowly slowly.

All of this needs to be taken into consideration as you plan your bedding for your project long range rifle.
26 May 2012
@ 06:51 pm (GMT)


Re: bell and carlson
Hi Greg,

Tell us about your plan for this rifle?
Type of hunting? etc
I have no experience with the B&C stock, but have heard good things about them. But have you thought of stabilising the factory plastic stock? It will be cheaper than a B&C and the $$$ you save can be spent on top quality glass or spent on "stage 2"........ The reason I say this, is that although the standard stock is very "plain Jane" they still shoot.
If recoil is an issue a factory laminate could be an option.

Let us know more details, my gun rack holds a few Tikka's :-)

27 May 2012
@ 03:13 pm (GMT)

greg street

Re: bell and carlson
Thanks for the info. The rifle is a t3 lite in 270wsm with a gun works supressor, this will be my main hunting rifle so will used in the bush and on the tops so I'm trying to keep the weight down, I have noticed on the range that the heat builds up fast with the supressor.
I'm running factory 140gn accubonds with sucess out to 300yards but going to slowly start pushing the range out, stage 1 is the new stock, stage 2 will be load development then hopefully a new scope and a trip to nathan, I'd like not to have to rebarrel as funds are limited and this be a very slow project but barrels don't last forever.
27 May 2012
@ 03:47 pm (GMT)


Re: bell and carlson
Yep Heat will be abit of a problem. The trick is to make all your shots count ;-)

If your rifle is shooting well now then have a good think about how you will spend your hard won cash!
A new stock won't allow you to shoot twice as far.......... but a good scope with accurate turrets will.

I don't know what glass you've got now? To me a good scope is very high on the list.

Also you may be very surprised now well you can shoot your current rig with a day or 2 tutorial with Nathan
06 Jun 2012
@ 01:10 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: bell and carlson
Hi Greg, I am in agreement with longshot.

There has been a bit of a thing going around where folk ncomplain about the T3 stock being flexible and needing to be replaced. I just haven't seen this. What I have seen is incorrect shooting technique combined with the use of bipods on a platform that is very light, the bipod causing the entire rifle to jump off the ground.

In its factory stock, unless there is an individual flaw, the T3 is accurate as it is. There is no need for an aftermarket stock apart from ergonomic improvements. To this end,it may pay to not fit the B&C stock until the rifle is due for re-barreling, at which point the new barrel contour (hopefully you will obtain a fatter contour than the current) will not work with the existing channeling. At this point, the change to the B&C would be very good.

Suppressors are problematic on thin barreled long range rifles. Long shot who posted above has such a rig and he is correct,you have to make your shots count. This requires a great deal of practice where shots are taken very slowly over a longer period of time. You cannot plink in the same way as one would plink with a heavy barrel .308. If you do, the worst I have seen happen so far is a ruptured case and locked up action due to the steel in the bore swelling, the bore dimensions reducing, causing severe pressure. It could have been worse, it would have been worse if the shooter had have kept going. So its just about being smart.


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