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Autonomic Plexus

17 Mar 2015
@ 07:02 pm (GMT)

Thomas Pavelka

Would it be possible to post a photo of a deer or deer like animal with either crosshairs, or a red dot on the exact spot to hit this?

And if so, a Bear. And why not a hog.

I believe I've hit it a few times but not by intention. It is a bang flop thing.

Thanks!

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17 Mar 2015
@ 08:39 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Autonomic Plexus
I am a bit short on time for a photo at the moment sorry Thomas.

Viewed broad side.

The key is to aim for the front line of the front leg. Not the centre of the line of the front leg.

Many hunters lack the confidence to take this shot. They worry the shot will go too far forwards.

If the shot goes slightly forwards, it should break the round ball joint (see images in the game killing section of this site). If the shot goes to the rear, it will be a center lung shot.

Some folk hit what looks like the center of the shoulder and call a shoulder shot. But if you look at the bone structure on an animal, the upper bones form a triangle. I made this assumption myself during my last video, second goat- I called a shoulder shot in initial inspection of the carcass but then found we missed the bones and did actually get the deliberate behind the shoulder shot we wanted for that piece of research.

Will come back to this if / when I have a chance.
18 Mar 2015
@ 01:59 am (GMT)

Mike Neeson

Re: Autonomic Plexus
Here is a pic that I came up with


Hope this helps

Mike
18 Mar 2015
@ 02:30 am (GMT)

Bob Mavin

Re: Autonomic Plexus
Hi Mike

I aim a bit higher. Half way up the chest height, to a bit above halfway and about an 1" in front of the leg, depending on the angle. Hasn't failed yet.

Cheers
Bob
18 Mar 2015
@ 03:03 am (GMT)

Mike Neeson

Re: Autonomic Plexus
Cheers Bob.
18 Mar 2015
@ 03:05 am (GMT)

Mike Neeson

Re: Autonomic Plexus
Using your aiming point Bob, it looks like it would take out the Aorta - massive Blood loss from there! Nothing like experience eh?
18 Mar 2015
@ 04:39 am (GMT)

Bob Mavin

Re: Autonomic Plexus
Hi Mike
My Dad told me to shoot them there when I was only 13 or so.
With a heavy 30-06 pill it doesn't do too much meat damage and I've never had an animal walk away from that shot. If we're meat hunting out to 200m we hit them in the neck just below the head.
18 Mar 2015
@ 02:22 pm (GMT)

Thomas Pavelka

Re: Autonomic Plexus
Thanks Gentlemen!

Wondering. How far off dead nuts can one be and still severely damage this key spot?

Wouldn't a fast expanding bullet upset it without a direct hit? Thinking about those gelatin block demos they do it seems it would really rattle the works.
18 Mar 2015
@ 08:12 pm (GMT)

Bob Mavin

Re: Autonomic Plexus
With a side on shot, it would be a 4" target even with a hard pill.

I've shot a lot of Deer with 30 cal 150gn Interbonds with 308 & 30-06, hit within 2" of that aim point all for instant kills.

I now only use 168 A-Max in my 30-06 at around 2860fps, Nathan recommended them, I really like them. I found a bulk buy on 168gn zombie-max identical pill to A-Max. They immediately expand to about a 30mm wound channel but then somehow remain that 30mm diameter right through. On Fallow & Red's I haven't recover a projectile at any range out to 400m
18 Mar 2015
@ 09:38 pm (GMT)

Shawn Bevins

Re: Autonomic Plexus
I shoot a little bit further back with a bow. Never had them go more than 50 yds if you put the arrow there. For a rifle shot, I aim a wee bit higher but where the cross hairs are in the picture, is a dead deer. Rarely do we get the broad side shot like this. Quartering head on or away give you "access"to the Autonomic Plexus. Understanding your animals anatomy is a paramount. The neck shot when done right is DRT.. also.
19 Mar 2015
@ 01:27 am (GMT)

Mike Neeson

Re: Autonomic Plexus
I've bought 1000 of those zombie max bullet too. What a bargain.
19 Mar 2015
@ 01:35 am (GMT)

Jim Moseley

Re: Autonomic Plexus
I like the spot to be slightly higher myself. Also like for the deer to have it's head down in a feeding position. I think it may bring the vertebra closer to the hydrostatic shock wave created, therefore crushing the spinal cord. No expert on antimony, but they sure drop like a rock in that position with the Amax. Four of the five deer I shot last season had the heads down and all dropped on the spot.
19 Mar 2015
@ 01:41 am (GMT)

Jim Moseley

Re: Autonomic Plexus
"anatomy" - ok, I need to read what I write!
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