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Bed to recoil lug or support first section of barrel?

09 Jan 2012
@ 09:44 pm (GMT)

Dave Clouston

I've just found this site after bedding my Howa 1500 300win last weekend.

On previous rifles I've bed I've always supported the first 30mm or so of the barrel with bedding compound, but the article i found on the web said that best not to support barrel with synthetic stocks and only support barrels on wood stocks.

Tend to concur with statement that houge 1500 stocks are tricky and my question is should I now bed the barrel as shown in your article or shoot it first and see if it needs adjusting.

My concern is that the bedding area is minimal at moment with small tang area and main support coming from flat behind recoil lug.

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10 Jan 2012
@ 09:47 am (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Bed to recoil lug or support first section of barrel?
Hi Dave, the article you read is a bit short sighted. If the first 20-30mm of the barrel is not bedded on a plastic stocked rifle, it leaves the recoil lug area of the plastic stock extremely weak and flexible in comparison to the rest of the bedded area. What then happens is that the forend when rested (especially with a bipod), flexes upwards and as it does so, the plastic flexes back and pinches the front of the recoil lug. This flexing and pinching is inconsistent, quite often destroying accuracy altogether.

I have seen rifles done this way, usually they are sent to me for re-work as the rifles have become extremely poor shooters, the rifle owner is confused, wondering why the rifle became worse after he had it sent off for bedding. Its not so bad with the Howa rifle design but is highly problematic with the Remington and Savage actions.

Ideally, all voids in plastic stocks should be filled with a light weight filler such as our own TBR stabilizer compound, then bedded.

If you have already bedded the rifle and left the barrel free, then it will be best to atleast test shoot it. If it shoots well, then it will save any unnecessary re-work. If you have to start over, please go about doing the job as described in our online instructions.
13 Jan 2012
@ 08:28 pm (GMT)

Dave Clouston

Re: Bed to recoil lug or support first section of barrel?
Thanks for the info Nathan.

Given time on the range is more limiting than time in the evenings I'm thinking I'll reinforce the barrel area straight up.

This is a brilliant site and wished I had found it earlier as would most likely have bought some TBR stabiliser and seriously considered a Sightron scope.

I've epoxied in an alloy channel, (clear of barrel though) already to stiffen stock.

Have you considered putting the Sightrons on trademe as from all the reading I've done on the web they are highly regarded, but didn't find them here till after I'd bought a Vortex Viper PST.

Cheers

Dave
16 Jan 2012
@ 09:20 am (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Bed to recoil lug or support first section of barrel?
Hi Dave, we currently have about 1800 NZ new readers on the site per month so I stopped using Trademe to save passing on costs. When I bring the scopes in, the NZ Government charges (import duties, bio levies and GST) amount to approximately $300 and being that my goal has been to help my clients as much as possible, I have not wanted to add any more costs such as TM auction success fees. So, sorry if this has mucked you around and I hope that this explains my reasoning.



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