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@ 09:04 am (GMT) |
DustyI'm looking for some advice. As you might have seen in one of Nathan's recent videos named Corrosion in stainless barrel caused by suppressor.https://youtu.be/iQI0ayX2jI8?si=FrKiSOZKBeJR6C5P It was my rifle and unfortunately it needs a new barrel. I spoke with True flite and for a new barrel I'm looking at $1750. I was a bit surprised by the price and since that is the price of a new rifle. Another gunsmith has quoted me $1450 for a fitted Shilen barrel or a True flite. So this is the question I have for you. What would you do? Option 1-Rebarrel the rifle with True flite. I like everything about the rifle as it is right now (except the accuracy). I would be getting exactly what I want if I reballel and have a bit of 'insurance' if it's a dud bore due to being able to send it back to True flite. No so much with the other gunsmith. Option 2- Sell the rifle 'as is' in full disclosure and start from scratch again. Risking a dud from new rifle. Regardless of what decision I do, it will be about the same amount of money. I still haven't decided if I'm going to run a suppressor or not, I'm leaning on no suppressor at this point. Thanks Dusty |
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@ 10:05 am (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Rebarrel or New rifle?Hi Dusty, yes that's very steep and likely untenable for most. The price of high spec steels went up first during the lockdowns as a result of supply chain issues, then went up again dramatically as a result of the various wars. In addition to this, we now have the fuel crisis.If you think the smith is OK, then perhaps you can save $250 by going this route. Sorry - if I were not so busy with current projects, I would do the job myself. A new T3 is $2000 at the moment. So as you say, its only a small difference. The main problem is that in NZ, we are isolated (fuel) and at the end of the supply chain (steel) and under major economic hardships. It simply costs less to make kit overseas at the moment. So really, its not exactly cheaper to rebarrel. With courier costs, it will end up about the same. Keep in mind, your rifle is a good platform. It has a fixed lug (easy to bed etc), a steel shroud and an ali trigger guard. It is a simple turn bolt with excellent camming power from a 90 degree lift, including a decent bolt handle design to aid cycling. You have a good trigger fitted and the entire system works with Rem aftermarket stocks etc. So its a good place to be. I think what it comes down to, is simply whether you like the rifle. That is the factor that needs to guide you. The choice of smith will depend on work standards (please don't relay here / don't want to cast dispersion on anyone). Hope that helps to clear your thinking a bit. All the best. |
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@ 09:11 pm (GMT) |
Ben LawRe: Rebarrel or New rifle?how long is it going to take to have the new barrel fitted?if you have easy enough access to true flite that's probably where i'd go, as they seem to have a pretty good reputation. i think you've got a better chance of getting a better barrel from a barrel maker than another factory rifle so if price is similar and accuracy important that would be the way i'd go. nothing wrong with going to the other gunsmith if you think he's reputable. going direct to true flite for a few hundred $ more is probably not a bad move, if there's an issue you only have to deal with one company. |
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@ 08:31 pm (GMT) |
Andrew MurrayRe: Rebarrel or New rifle?Big Questions.I recently had a worn out 303 re-barreled and I am happy with this choice I think it was 1200AUD all up which is closer to your gunsmith quote on conversion. I made the choice due to it being part of our (shared) history and the fact that I just could not bring my self to weld the barrel shut and put it on a display shelf. That coupled with the fact I'm in the Australian Army, albeit as a non-combatant (I'm a chaplain), made it all the more enticing to keep alive. The woodwork is all knocked up and scratched, the serial numbers don't match but it's all WW2 vintage and all Australian; which makes it a perfect field gun, it's not precious, it's not pretty, but my goodness it's so much fun to shoot. If you take a peep in the "Allen Swan Rifle Barrels" thread just below you'll see a photo of a deer I took with it earlier this year and the rifle itself. I made the sling from an old cloth ammo belt off a Vickers gun, which I think is really cool. The point of all this waffle is that only you can decide what is right. For my part I did not regret giving the old gun a second run at life, I think I would have had I went down the road of making it innocuous and a display piece. My Howa has been a journey with troubles bedding it in a Hogue stock and chasing loads. I've since put it in a HS Precision stock and it's much better to shoot, the bedding job is far better. But it's all been learning. If you can go on the journey then go on it, if you cannot, be thankful you did not start down it. Bless ya brother. |
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@ 07:04 am (GMT) |
DustyRe: Rebarrel or New rifle?Thanks for the voice of reasoning Andrew, Ben and Nathan. When I got the bad news that my rifle barrel was done for I consciously slowed down on the decision making process so I didn't go and do something that didn't make sense. I must admit I did get caught up in speaking to others whether to rebarrel or by a new rifle. Unfortunately it shows the throw away culture we are in. Also that mates thought it was a better option to "bin the rifle" than rebarrel. When the price from True flite was emailed to me I was surprised. I have since given this much thought, a new Tikka, Bergara etc, rifle gives very little to no options for the buyer. Getting a custom barrel put on the world is my oyster in regards to options.I now look at this situation as a blessing and am excited to go through with it. I'm still working out what I want exactly but when its done I'll put some photos up and report back on it. It has been surprising how passionate people are in this "industry" in regards to going against the grain with not wanting to run a suppressor. I can't imagine the shit Nathan has waded though with Bipods, slings and holding the forend. Thanks Nathan for what you have done for me. Have a good day. Dusty |