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Flat-Shooting Coyote Cartridges

19 Dec 2021
@ 01:25 pm (GMT)

Ryan Nafe

Fellas,

Been a while since I’ve posted much here, things have been quite busy for me on many fronts, I hope everyone is doing well enough considering all the weird stuff going on lately.

In recent weeks I’ve been getting a setup going (clothing, calls, making a list of farmers and land owners to call) for coyote hunting in my local area. There’s plenty of them around, but I think they’re fairly difficult to hunt here because of human habituation and some moderate hunting pressure. It’ll be a challenge, something interesting to do during the winter months.

The idea I’ve been knocking around in my head is a rifle/cartridge combination to use for this, nothing I have right now is optimized for it.

I’d like to keep things in the range of a +- 2 inch MPBR of about 250 yards. 2 inches instead of 3 because of the smaller animals. That should be sufficient for most of the areas I’d be hunting in, much of it is woodlots interspersed with farm fields and small clearings, so shots could be anywhere from 25 to 250 yards or a bit more.

Because the animals can come in quickly and turn tail just as quickly, I think it would be best to have a rifle/cartridge/bullet combination that can be held on the middle of the front shoulder or middle of the chest straight-on (barring high crosswinds) and hit hard enough (75 grains or more in bullet weight) to reliably put down the animal with some room for error in shot placement.

As much as a .22-250 would seem ideal, I don’t think the 45 to 55 grain .22 pills have the oomph to do it consistently. The coyotes around here in Wisconsin can get pretty hefty, quite a bit bigger than the desert dogs down south in Texas or Arizona, for example. 35 pounds or more isn’t uncommon up here, and that’s not counting the ones that have hybridized with gray wolves.

I don’t want to spend an ungodly amount of money on the rifle, given it’s rather limited role, preferably under $1,000 including the optics. It also can’t be overly long and heavy, 10 pounds and a 24 inch barrel would be the upper limit.

As far as the cartridge goes, I’m currently leaning towards a .243 Winchester. With the 75 grain V-Max at 3,300 to 3,400 FPS, if sighted 2 inches high at 150 yards it would be 2 inches low at 275. At least according to the Hornady calculator. With mindfulness of the wind, this should be adequate.

A Tikka T3X stainless or Savage 110 Storm in .243 looks to me like it would be pretty close to ideal for this work. The accuracy is likely to be there, I won’t need to mess with aftermarket stocks and triggers, they’re of an average size and weight for a bolt gun, and both of them are reasonably priced. I’d need stainless steel due to the wintertime hunting, snow and condensation isn’t friendly to plain ole 4140.

What do you guys think? Does it sound like a reasonable plan and analysis to you? Would you go with a different cartridge, a different rifle, etc.?

Thanks,
Ryan

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20 Dec 2021
@ 01:08 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: Flat-Shooting Coyote Cartridges
Sounds like you need an accurate Drilling combination gun with 3 barrels two rifle and one snot gun tube?
https://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/blaserbd1401.jpg
20 Dec 2021
@ 01:17 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: Flat-Shooting Coyote Cartridges
More info

https://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/?s=drilling+gun&submit=Search
20 Dec 2021
@ 02:31 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: Flat-Shooting Coyote Cartridges
OR for a gold donation and 4 barrels.......



https://www.prinz-waffen.de/en/weapons/prinz-quadruple/

Hey It's christmass who knows what'll land up under the tree!!! Take care all.

Ryan A 6.5x55 swede will do what you want with 95gn vmax or 120gn Eldx
formerly an (A-MAX)

You could carry a 20ga coach gun and a rifle for the close up stuff the poor mans double combination guns solution??
What cals have you already got in your gun safe at present??? Surely they'll do 250 yds for youre Wile E Coyote friendz



22 Dec 2021
@ 06:14 am (GMT)

Ryan Nafe

Re: Flat-Shooting Coyote Cartridges
Hey Warwick, in all seriousness a drilling isn’t a bad idea aside from cost. I’ll likely be carrying a shotgun and leaving it laying across my lap while the rifle is resting on a set of shooting sticks. That’s a common setup for calling coyotes, especially when doing it solo. The shotgun will have either #4 or 00 buckshot in it for the close stuff. Usually if it’s a pair of people doing the hunting, the guy operating the calls will have the shotgun while the other guy has the rifle, taking turns at each area or spot.
22 Dec 2021
@ 10:29 am (GMT)

Martin Taylor

Re: Flat-Shooting Coyote Cartridges
243w running the 87gr V-Max is spot on Ryan and l'm pretty sure its a factory load if needed.

I've used and setup many rigs with this combo for this role (foxes & dogs here in OZ) and they have all performed extremely well.
Having the extra weight over the 22's is a bonus when pushing into chest height grass.
The Tikka Varmint is a great, affordable .5moa factory rifle for this purpose, adjust the trigger and have at it!
22 Dec 2021
@ 12:31 pm (GMT)

Ryan Nafe

Re: Flat-Shooting Coyote Cartridges
Cool, thanks Martin.
22 Dec 2021
@ 12:32 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Flat-Shooting Coyote Cartridges
Hi Ryan, sorry for the late reply and thanks Marty, you beat me to it. I could not think of a better combo for this purpose.

All the best.
22 Dec 2021
@ 04:16 pm (GMT)

Ryan Nafe

Re: Flat-Shooting Coyote Cartridges
No worries Nathan, thanks and best wishes everyone.
25 Dec 2021
@ 01:34 pm (GMT)

David Landwehr

Re: Flat-Shooting Coyote Cartridges
I was going to suggest the exact same rig. Ive shot coke cans at 600 yards with my tikka varmint in 223 after stabilising the fore end and match grade bedding. They are the ducks nuts but I am biased to the tikkas.
Merry Christmas and good luck Ryan.
26 Dec 2021
@ 11:33 am (GMT)

Martin Taylor

Re: Flat-Shooting Coyote Cartridges
My shooting partner & l use these to great effect in factory (standard) competitions, they just work, 22-250, 223, 243. We try to keep cost to a minimum to encourage new shooters.
No fuss, no fan fair, just consistent .5moa and better groups hot or cold barrel.

Our 243's running 2209 & 87 V-max's are dynamite at 300, knocking off many target projectiles. Until very recently these where one of the cheapest 6mm projectiles here in OZ.

I've never lost an animal with this combo unlike the 204R, 223, 22-250 & we've tested extensively. You just can't beat the extra weight etc. when ranges get out towards the edge of the spotlight or placement is marginal.
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