29 Nov 2020
@ 11:31 am (GMT)
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Scott Struif
Re: 6.5x55 & 140G Partition.
Hi, Jon, and congrats! I dont have similar results to share, but your story is valuable to all of us who might question whether a partition will hold up to the rigors of a close-range shoulder-shot. Thanks for sharing. I wish you could post the video, but I dont know if its possible on here. If it is, Id love to see it!
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30 Nov 2020
@ 04:45 pm (GMT)
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Jon Short
Re: 6.5x55 & 140G Partition.
Will try & get onto the video sorted or a pic or two at some stage as time permits...
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01 Dec 2020
@ 05:31 pm (GMT)
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Jon Short
Re: 6.5x55 & 140G Partition.
https://i.postimg.cc/Kjpz97Jn/ENTRY-ON-BALL-OF-SHOULDER-RED-HIND.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/Kjpz97Jn/ENTRY-ON-BALL-OF-SHOULDER-RED-HIND.jpg
Attempt at uploading photos
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01 Dec 2020
@ 05:32 pm (GMT)
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Jon Short
Re: 6.5x55 & 140G Partition.
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01 Dec 2020
@ 05:35 pm (GMT)
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Jon Short
Re: 6.5x55 & 140G Partition.
Previous photo was entry wound.
Below id the exist where you can see that the ball joint has been completely destroyed, yet the partition still punched right through the far side of the animal to exit, destroying the top of the heart & part lungs on the way. Pretty tough projectile huh?
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01 Dec 2020
@ 05:38 pm (GMT)
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Jon Short
Re: 6.5x55 & 140G Partition.
The bruising to the leg meat was not too bad either with not much meat lost around the joint. Had it been an Amax at this range, as much as I like the projectile, the bruising & bullet blow up would have made a hell of a mess I think.
Cheers,
Jon
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01 Dec 2020
@ 07:56 pm (GMT)
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Scott Struif
Re: 6.5x55 & 140G Partition.
Thanks for the pics, Jon. When you said the bullet exploded/smashed the ball joint, you werent kidding.
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02 Dec 2020
@ 10:10 am (GMT)
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Jon Short
Re: 6.5x55 & 140G Partition.
Yeah Scott, pretty impressive & goes to show that it is a more suitable projectile than most in the 6.5x55 for close range normal NZ bush red deer stalking.
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04 Dec 2020
@ 09:19 pm (GMT)
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Ian
Re: 6.5x55 & 140G Partition.
A similar experience to yours Jon. Sambar spiker, weight maybe 150/170 kg. Distance about 120 yards, Standing, angling slightly away and unalarmed. 160 7mm Partition @ 2800 mv.
In behind the nearside leg/shoulder, out the opposite side and direct hit on the ball joint. Pulled up HARD under the skin making the classic lump. Didn't just stop at the skin.
The ball joint was pulverised and the bullet still had plenty of steam after two lots of ribs, two lots of hide and the ball joint. Projectile wasn't pretty, but so what ?
I'm always concerned that an accidental hit on the ball, or even the humerus, may stop the projectile before it can get into the chest, but not an issue with this load on this size animal.
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05 Dec 2020
@ 07:26 am (GMT)
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Scott Struif
Re: 6.5x55 & 140G Partition.
In spite of conventional wisdom to use enough gun, there seems to be a great deal of interest on here to shoot larger deer species with <30 cal. projectiles. It would seem a direct shoulder hit with a partition would waste any potential of hydraulic shock, because its soft nose nose would explode on bone/cartilage. Still, the incapacitating effect of such a shot cant be disputed. If theres enough left of the bullet to plow through, then mission accomplished. Nathan mentioned in a live feed a few Saturdays ago that he still considers the partition a good design for short-range work, in spite of its age, although he also said it could use revision, without specifying what that might be. Bonding of the rear core, perhaps? Ive asked about Federals new Terminal Ascent bullet, which is essentially a partition with a solid copper rear end, but nobody has tested it yet.
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11 Dec 2020
@ 06:27 pm (GMT)
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Jon Short
Re: 6.5x55 & 140G Partition.
Thanks fellas.
Good to hear of a similar experience. Right pill for the right range I think is the key & this is a good example.
I had no thought that there was any risk of hitting the ball of the should based on how the deer was positioned when I took this shot. It can be really hard to visualise where that joint is sitting when look through your scope at the animal, pick you spot & take your shot, & sometimes there is not enough time to even consider that either.
Understanding what can go wrong at the distances you are likely to shoot an animal at & the impact velocities is a big factor in what pill you decide to hunt with for that area or hunt.
Cheers
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12 Dec 2020
@ 12:17 am (GMT)
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Scott Struif
Re: 6.5x55 & 140G Partition.
Jon. Your pics and Ians description of the Partitions performance were helpful to me. I wondered how the rear core would hold up after striking bone. I read a little more about the Terminal Ascent. It evolved from a design Federal has been marketing for years: Trophy Bonded Bear Claw, Trophy Bonded Tip, Edge TLR. It would seem to solve the problem Ian described (i.e., Projectile wasnt pretty). But the nose is bonded, and the rear core is solid, so maybe it wouldnt not have produced the results you guys achieved with the Partition. Anyway, interesting stuff. Thanks!
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18 Dec 2020
@ 09:19 am (GMT)
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Joshua Mayfield
Re: 6.5x55 & 140G Partition.
With the current shortage in components I am considering projectiles I had not been interested in previously. One bullet that seems widely available right now in the .264 / 6.5 diameter is the 100 grain Partition. Does anyone have experience with that bullet? The specific hunting situation would be deer likely between 120 and 250 lb live weight at sub 200 yard ranges.
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18 Dec 2020
@ 08:18 pm (GMT)
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Jonathan Kitterman
Re: 6.5x55 & 140G Partition.
I think you would be fine with that choice and distance limits. I wouldn't think it would be much different that a 243 with a 100 grain Partition. Peek in the Knowledge Base too.
Links from Nolser website on loads. Just compare same weight on the tabs.
<a href=" <BR>https://load-data.nosler.com/load-data/65x55-swedish-mauser/ <BR> <BR>https://load-data.nosler.com/load-data/243-winchester/ <BR>">
https://load-data.nosler.com/load-data/65x55-swedish-mauser/
https://load-data.nosler.com/load-data/243-winchester/
</a>
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19 Dec 2020
@ 06:07 am (GMT)
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Scott Struif
Re: 6.5x55 & 140G Partition.
Also take a look at the Knowledgebase article on the 257 Roberts:
At Roberts velocities, the 100 grain Nosler Partition is arguably the most useful, most versatile bullet available of the .257 offerings. The Partition can be driven at 3000fps or above to optimize wounding without suffering any risk of bullet blow up on medium game. The 100 grain Partition produces violent wounding, its only weakness being a mild BC of .377 which simply cannot be helped. Statistically, this is one of the most common projectiles used in the Roberts on deer in the U.S.
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