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Remington or Tikka
@ 07:34 am (GMT) |
Michael Roachlooking for advice, based in Auckland NZ. had my FL lapse but now have it back finally.Ordered a Rem 700 CDL 270 from the states about 6 months ago and it doesn't appear to be arriving anytime soon ( bloody covid). I am eager to get amongst it, so am wondering if my best plan of action is to cancel the Rem and go a buy a Tikka hunter in 270 or 308? the reason I had my heart set on the remington was because they are easy to work on and I want to replace trigger full glass bed etc etc. I also am a bit of a traditionalist in that I want a wooden stock. So ultimately the question is, will I be in any way hindered If I go Tikka ( like the rest of NZ or should I wait for the remington. |
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@ 09:44 am (GMT) |
Jonathan KittermanRe: Remington or TikkaI would go with what you can buy today unless you are really set on it saying Remington. |
@ 10:43 pm (GMT) |
Hamish GibbsRe: Remington or TikkaHi Michael may I say it's great you mentioned your location, takes the guess work out of the equation.Have been thinking about your question for a few days and have come to the conclusion that only one who can answer it is yourself? For starters another great revealer on this forum would be if you had read and understood Nathan's books? Only because I am guessing if we are on the same page? If you have I'd just query your alternative calibre choice? .270 would IMHO be vs the 30 06? Not the .308 as an alternative. If you haven't read the books, start there as it will answer your questions in spades keeping in mind recent developments at Remington. There is a lot mentioned in regard to action length suitability to cartridge choice, trigger adjustments required, the list goes on.... |
@ 12:11 pm (GMT) |
David LenziRe: Remington or TikkaI suppose it depends on budget and whether you have a good smith handy. I've had a few off the rack rifles...the only one that remains in my safe and more or less stock is my Tikka T3x. In all honestly, I bought it for 600 USD for the action...it just happens to shoot well enough that I'm keeping it as is.My experience with Tikka - spend $10 on a trigger spring, $20 on the vertical grip (for plastic stock), $50 on Match Grade Stabilizer/Bedding and set it up how you like. I'd consider an extra $85 on a Sterk bolt handle money well spent. I'm about $800 in on my T3x (not charging myself for labor!) and I have a rifle that shoots alongside my M70 that left the shop at $1300 and has since received a $700 stock, $700 barrel, $250 trigger and $300 of gun smithing... I love having a custom rifle...but, it's not hard to see where the better value is here in terms of performance. Even if I splurged on a new stock for the Tikka, I'd still only be in the neighborhood of the base Winchester M70 for cost. My T3x shoots every bit as well as my old Rem 700 Sendero SFII did too. If I were not limited by funds to a "budget" gun, but didn't want to "splurge" on a high end custom action and I wanted a Rem 700 footprint, I'd look hard at a Mack Bros action. If you want a built 700, you can look at Straight Jacket Armory. You're playing the waiting game...you might find some more amenable lead times either place if you're of a mind to order from the States. |
@ 05:50 am (GMT) |
Thomas KitchenRe: Remington or TikkaHi MichaelHave you looked into bergara's? Reloaders supplies have a few on their shelves you can look at. The woodsman might be the ticket if you can live without stainless and importing has one. Or other option is a tikka like you say, the tikka is a great platform in short actions in my opinion. The synthetic stainless make a fantastic hack rifle, I would just add the wide forend and maybe a limb saver recoil pad. |
@ 12:35 pm (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Remington or TikkaHi Michael, with the closure of Remington, the rifle you ordered may not turn up unless its been in the system / on the docks for some time.Note that as Thomas said, you can obtain an M700 clone in the form of the Bergara. This is a very good brand of rfifle, however do take time to study the various options / weights etc. There are also a good number of Rem rifles floating about in the gun shops and or second hand. The Tikka rifles are of course readily available and with many aftermarket options. Just stay clear of the fluted jobbies, there is no need for anyone to be that much of a pussy. Keep it simple, that's the key. If you want to understand this rifle a bit more, you may wish to watch my video - Tikka rifle, how to set it up, break it in and shoot it. This can be found on our shopping tap - video learning (will redirect you to vimeo to rent the vid for three months). That will show you about everything you need to know about the Tikka, start to finish. For a full break down on pros and cons, as Hamish kindly pointed pointed out, the book series is the way to go. As previously mentioned, the Bergara is to be classed as an M700 clone (as per the brand pro con lists in the book). One factor to be mindful of is that the Tikka rifles have generally short magazines compared to the M700, the Bergara and also the Howa / Weatherby actions. This can be a major handicap if using a longer cartridge (see knowledge base, Foster Manson reamers PDF). Having said said this, the Tikka can be fitted with replacement bottom metal and AICS mags which remedy most ills. But be sure to do your homework here. As David said, the Tikka can produce outstanding performance at a low price point. But its also possible to completely miss the mark and end up with something like the .300 Win Mag T3 lite producing horrendous recoil with a short plastic magazine that won't take hand loads, then come all of the add-ons and more problems. So once again, take your time to study the pros and cons of the various rifles and options. |
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@ 03:08 pm (GMT) |
Michael RoachRe: Remington or TikkaThank you for your replies, I have since got the Tikka out of frustration if anything else, have followed all of the procedures in all of said books and I have managed to print a couple of half inch 3 shot groups. more to follow I guess[b] |
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