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Savage question

19 Aug 2020
@ 03:12 pm (GMT)

Scott Struif

I read that Savage introduced the cylindrical receiver a few years before Remington. Also that they introduced the locknut for head spacing, as well as the sandwiched recoil lug. Remington copied these innovations, as did others. Savage’s ”Accutrigger” apparently motivated the industry to rethink their triggers, although not to the extent of copying the Accutrigger, except maybe Ruger. My question is, Why have no other companies copied Savage’s floating bolt head design? Is there an inherent weakness, or did they have a bullet-proof patent that couldn’t be breached?

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19 Aug 2020
@ 03:18 pm (GMT)

Scott Struif

Re: Savage question
Never mind. I didn’t think it through. The “fat bolt” design, stolen from Weatherby is way cheaper to produce.
20 Aug 2020
@ 06:40 am (GMT)

Thomas Kitchen

Re: Savage question
The premier bergara series have the floating bolt head like a savage.

The way savages cock is interesting and also the primary extraction piece on the bolt, it's why it lends itself to left hand options so easily.

From memory savage bolt lugs stick out wider then bolt body, weatherby and ruger American along with others dont to make action machining easier.

Many way to skin a cat as some actions have split recoil lug on one side that runs along a rail in the action, it tends to be a more open reciever design that uses it compared to things like a tikka that has a top on it.

Seekins make an interesting action full size bolt body, bolt lugs that lock horizontally rather then tradition vertically.
From my understanding they use a locking lug recess washer (my description) rather then machining receiver.
Lithgow also use same setup.

Jj rock actions also lock horizontally but they are big custom cheytec actions.

Theres always a balance between companies doing something one way because it makes a better gun vs cuts cost.

Remington origin's into bolt action sporting market was based around p14/m1917
20 Aug 2020
@ 09:23 am (GMT)

Scott Struif

Re: Savage question
Thanks, Thomas. Interesting that Bergara borrowed the floating bolt head technology. The design seems to make sense. If the bolt head and lug recesses are machined true, there would be no reason to lap the lugs, or true the action (which I would never pay to have done, anyway.) I’m looking for a used hack rifle for woods hunting. The Savage 110 is the only used rifle that goes for a reasonable price around here. Everybody with a used Model 700, Model 70, or Vanguard thinks their gun is worth more than a new one at the store. The Savage bolt is not one I’d want to have to take apart to clean if it got dropped in the muck on a hunting trip, though.
01 Sep 2020
@ 10:38 pm (GMT)

Paul Leverman

Re: Savage question
The Savage bolt is no different than any other. Once you do it a couple of times, the simplicity becomes obvious.

If you have the right book, and the right tools, you can do anything.
 

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