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208 ELD-M in the 30-06

27 May 2020
@ 11:34 am (GMT)

Philipp M

Howdy All,
Long time reader of Nathan's books, first post.
I've got a older Remington 30-06 with a long throat, many many boxes of 208 ELD-Ms, and a desire to tinker. Mostly I shoot this rifle with 180 partitions but I guess I'm bored with doing it the easy way.

Happy to get recommendations for powder but less worried about that as I'm just going to start low with several powders and work my way up.

What I would love some advice on is where to start in terms of seating depth. COAL when the bullet reaches the lands is 3.604. Rounds still feed at close to this length (mag box is around 3.700) but there is not much bullet left in the case neck.

I'm thinking of starting COAL at around 3.500, or about .100 jump. This is a fairly long jump but the bullet is still well down into the neck.

The other option is to start COAL at around 3.400, which is a .200 jump, and have every possible bit of the useable bullet surface (above the boat tail) gripped by the neck.

Powders I'll probably start with are H4350, H4831SC, and Ramshot Hunter.

Any thoughts are appreciated.


29 May 2020
@ 09:10 am (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: 208 ELD-M in the 30-06
Load some up and run em thru the Chrono let us know what you get?
29 May 2020
@ 09:40 am (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: 208 ELD-M in the 30-06
Hi Phillip, welcome aboard.

I suggest you start at an OAL of 3.450". This is as long as you can go without creating a donut in the brass (so that the brass can be used with other bullets).

H4831sc may go OK but if possible, I would like to see you start with RE22. The throat is so long that I cannot predict velocities. You'll have to let your chrony tell you where its at. I expect you will get well over 2600fps.

There is a chance that the throat is so long that it is sluggish with the slower powders. If so, it might do OK with H4350 or Ramshot.

Start with a slow powder. Move to the faster powder if it shows a flat spot over the chrony with no gains.
09 Jun 2020
@ 09:19 pm (GMT)

Philipp M

Re: 208 ELD-M in the 30-06
This is excellent. I will report back with results.
27 Jun 2020
@ 02:03 pm (GMT)

David Lenzi

Re: 208 ELD-M in the 30-06
I am curious to see how this is going if there is more to report. I've got a handful of the 208 ELD-M loaded with H4831sc and Superformance with some IMR 4955 on the shelf.

Sorting through tons of different powders is quite a pain, if I'm honest. IIRC, all mine are loaded at 3.4 inches at the moment, and I suspect a bit on the anemic side. The chrono will tell.

Project got put on hold because accuracy with that particular rifle continues to elude me.


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