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Pillars: Seamless Stainless Steel Tubing?
@ 03:26 pm (GMT) |
John D. Hays - New MexicoHere in the States we have Grainger who carry "Seamless Stainless Steel Tubing" in a variety of internal and external sizes:https://www.grainger.com/category/stainless-steel-tubing/tubing/pipe-tubing-and-fittings/plumbing/ecatalog/N-qxd Wouldn't one or another of these do for most rifles? I have three wood-stocked guns that will need pillars, a CZ 527, a Winchester M70 Featherweight, and a Winchester M70 Safari Express. |
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@ 08:05 am (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Pillars: Seamless Stainless Steel Tubing?Hi John, the 3/8th looks good. But check the internal diameter. I see there are a couple of options. make sure there is enough room for a 1/4" screw plus around 40 thou or so clearance. |
@ 08:05 am (GMT) |
Martin TaylorRe: Pillars: Seamless Stainless Steel Tubing?Would work very well John.I have used that on some of mine but we only have limited sizes on hand. I just ruff up the outside with a nice course file and cut it with a pipe cutter going nice and easy so as not to crush the ends. Nathan lists this in his book, its used in milking shed set ups. |
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@ 08:06 am (GMT) |
Martin TaylorRe: Pillars: Seamless Stainless Steel Tubing?SNAP!! |
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@ 10:47 pm (GMT) |
John D. Hays - New MexicoRe: Pillars: Seamless Stainless Steel Tubing?Well, if you have to buy a six-foot length of tubing from Grainger I think you have room for trial and error.Reaming or drill-pressing the internal diameter to properly fit would seem an option, or alternately lathing the external diameter. With six feet to work with and a good pair of safety glasses it should be possible to get something right. Please correct me if I have the wrong idea, but the recoil lug(s) control the range of recoil lateral movement, the pillared screws control the seating depth of the action? If so, then a precise diameter pillar could actually be counter-productive as recoil movement might be compromised or "pinched." In that regard, I have set some of my wood-stocked Winchester M70s into aftermarket aluminum-alloy stocks but find the magazine boxes seem to fit tightly. From Nathan's books it appear this might be a troublesome issue?[b] |
@ 04:04 pm (GMT) |
Paul LevermanRe: Pillars: Seamless Stainless Steel Tubing?Seems to me that the pillars are for control of stock compression, ie, eliminating it. Am probably mistaken, but it's in the Book, somewhere. |
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@ 04:08 pm (GMT) |
Paul LevermanRe: Pillars: Seamless Stainless Steel Tubing?You can also use aluminum arrow shafts. I've used the gas tubes from the head of an oxy-acetylene torch, some brass standoffs from a Hyrail unit, and some surplus M98 pillars. Just about anything that won't distort under load from the king screws. Just bed them in and you are good to go. |
@ 05:18 pm (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: Pillars: Seamless Stainless Steel Tubing?I'm using steel brake pipe tubing but may use alloy or stainless instead for corrosion resistance. |
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@ 04:14 pm (GMT) |
John D. Hays - New MexicoRe: Pillars: Seamless Stainless Steel Tubing?So far on four of the dozen rifles in my rifle rotation project I have replaced the wooden stocks with composite aluminum chassis stocks. I figure that this will give me better overall results and it allows me to keep the beautiful wood stocks to reinstall on the rifles should I choose to sell them off at some point.I have the removed wood stocks in my humidified walk-in closet where I store my chess sets. I think this will keep them from warping, but who knows. Of the Winchester Model 70s the only one I will definitely have to leave as wood and pillar is the 375 H&H Safari Express. It apparently has dual recoil lugs, so I don't think I will find an after-market ali stock for it. |
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@ 11:25 pm (GMT) |
Paul LevermanRe: Pillars: Seamless Stainless Steel Tubing?John, don't be disappointed if your stocks don't stay straight. Being in a controlled environment will definitely help, but one thing that every woodworker knows is that wood will move. |
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@ 06:59 am (GMT) |
John D Hays - New MexicoRe: Pillars: Seamless Stainless Steel Tubing?Hi Paul,Yes it’s incredibly dry here compared to where you live. To go from here to eastern Oklahoma is to go from one extreme to another. Just a day or two of that humidity causes wood to rehydrate and untwist a bit. BTW, it is so dry here I don’t have rust issues on the firearms with the exception of the receiver of a Winchester 94 built in 1964. The rehydrate issue is the primary reason for spending the bucks for composite-aluminum stocks. If/when I resell these LRH Rotation rifles I will probably slip them back into the wood and they will probably look as-new. As long as the king bolt goes home the pretty stock is someone else’s project. |
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@ 02:55 pm (GMT) |
Paul LevermanRe: Pillars: Seamless Stainless Steel Tubing?It's like us travelling to the coast. Humidity is a bitch. If I had my druthers, I would be back in the desert at 9%, but fate says otherwise. So, live with 55-60%, and carry on. I do miss that dry air, though. |
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@ 04:52 am (GMT) |
John D Hays - New MexicoRe: Pillars: Seamless Stainless Steel Tubing?Saves on hair dryers, Paul |
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