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How is important is weight vs recoil

29 Aug 2017
@ 03:13 pm (GMT)

Thomas Kitchen

So I'm going to have to change around of scopes when my next rifle is ready.
I'm going to take a scope off my hack rifle and replace it with another scope that's 200grams lighter.

Thinking of the recoil and knowing that I would need another pair of rings.
It got me wondering how much weight difference there is in scope rings.
I normally use Burris rings but can go to something like Warne tactical rings to add an extra 100grams (cheers for checking Dan)

Does 100grams really make much difference.
Gun is a tikka 270 so already on the light side.

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29 Aug 2017
@ 03:14 pm (GMT)

Thomas Kitchen

Re: How is important is weight vs recoil
29 Aug 2017
@ 06:33 pm (GMT)

Jonathan Kitterman

Re: How is important is weight vs recoil
I think your shooting form will be more important. I guess you could try one of the online recoil calculators to see if it is in the ballpark of rifles you have shot in the past. In reality it only depends on you.
30 Aug 2017
@ 02:29 am (GMT)

Bryan Webster

Re: How is important is weight vs recoil
Burris makes great rings all round, but their latest ones are the XTR rings. While these may increase weight a tiny amount as they are steel rings, they use the inserts like the others but are far more robust. I do not like to skimp on the rings for weight savings, but look to the action, barrel, scope itself and the stock.
30 Aug 2017
@ 02:32 am (GMT)

Bryan Webster

Re: How is important is weight vs recoil
Should add that a McMillan EDGE stock is really nice. Light and extremely sturdy. A fellow I know has a .270 with a 22 inch barrel, light sporter weight barrel, custom Titanium action and this stock. The rifle is really light but with his Leupold Mark 4 scope shoots exceptionall accurately.
30 Aug 2017
@ 07:34 am (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: How is important is weight vs recoil
Hi Thomas, it will make little difference on this rig. Also, I do not like the vertical split rings, they cannot be lapped and I have seen them cause damage to scopes, but more so on rougher actions with occasional poor mount alignment such as CZ.

Hopefully it will not be too long before Clive Judd and his team are ready with a Precision Platforms stock to completely change the nature of the T3. All in good time.
30 Aug 2017
@ 09:09 am (GMT)

Martin Taylor

Re: How is important is weight vs recoil
Put on the rings you are confident with & suit Thomas, ie the Burris.

Grab a Varmint T3X fore stock off Dan so you'll have something to hang onto when things get slippery and if needed add weight inside the hollows of the stock to balance etc.

A friend is going through this and the "incredibly knowledgeable salesman" in his shop told him that the Tikka SS laminate 06 was to heavy to carry and he needed a superlite with the flutes & plastic stock.
Stupid advice for a novice shooter/hunter!
30 Aug 2017
@ 09:30 am (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: How is important is weight vs recoil
The old instant umbrella barrel. Get a bit of mud in the bore, pull the trigger, then hang your poncho over the remaining banana skin- singing in the rain.
30 Aug 2017
@ 09:10 pm (GMT)

Mike Davis

Re: How is important is weight vs recoil
Well let me put it thisaways...... my favourite shotgun has 11 oz of lead shot in tight fitting tube up butthole....and it sure as heck helps tame down the recoil of 3" steel shot loads. it was ok before hand but much more pleasant now.

wouldnt add that "nearly a pound" to a rifle I intended to carry all day,but then again I run suppressors so felt recoil is less any way.
31 Aug 2017
@ 10:06 am (GMT)

Bryan Webster

Re: How is important is weight vs recoil
Grandson shot his first moose yesterday evening using a 20 inch bbl Browning X-bolt in .308 and a 165 grain Hornady SST bullet with a reasonably stiff load.
Axed him pretty well.

Rifle was pretty light and he had originally not been shooting a lot so I installed a mercury tube in the butt that added a fair bit of weight and also wrapped on a cheek pad full of ammo along with a fairly stout scope and mounts. Result was a far more manageable rifle for him, mostly due to the added weight as we pounded technique into him for a few months and about a dozen boxes of ammo that I know of.
31 Aug 2017
@ 12:23 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: How is important is weight vs recoil
Mercury 1 cubic ft=849 pounds @ $76 lb

Tungsten 1 cubic ft =1,204 pounds @ $22 lb

Tungsten is 355 pounds heaver per cubic foot than mercury. Mercury can't be transported by air Tungsten can and it's way cheaper. I don't understand why you use Mercury for gun ballast....?
31 Aug 2017
@ 01:07 pm (GMT)

Jonathan Kitterman

Re: How is important is weight vs recoil
The mercury is a liquid inside the recoil tube. It moves opposite the recoil and works sort of like a dead blow hammer or a partially filled bottle of water.
31 Aug 2017
@ 04:23 pm (GMT)

Bryan Webster

Re: How is important is weight vs recoil
Yes Warwick, but this 13 year old youngster will not for many years travelling with a rifle by air anyway, and it worked extremely well. he began to sprout up in height and weight this year and I fully expect that eventually a new rifle will appear at some point from one I have in mind, a custom 35 Whelen weighing in at 9 pounds with scope and mounts that has been in my safe for 8 months now.
It has no such help attached or inside it.
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