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Swedish Mauser bedding and stabilizing

09 Mar 2013
@ 05:36 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Taken from an email query. The hunter asks: "I have a Swedish Mauser with a synthetic stock, the forend was pressure point bedded and did not shoot very well. After removing the pressure points at the tip of the forend, the stock appears to be very flexible. Will Matchgrade stock stabilizer fix this"?



My Response:

Hi ...., thanks for the photos, now I know what you are up against. The stock you have is a fiber glass jobby, we had the same run of sporterized rifles here in NZ with the same stocks. These stocks were built like surfboards/boats before makers understood that rifles need a different approach (although some makers still do glass over foam stocks). The trouble with this stock is that the glass layer is very thin, a simple layer over foam. To remove the flex, the entire forend has to be hogged out to the bottom line, the action has to be hogged out to the bottom line, followed by a solid fill with our stabilizer. I suggest you do not do this- its a hellish project.

I want you to try and find a Ramline stock. Can't beat these. They are a super tough plastic with fiber in the plastic mold. You can bed and stabilize one of these. You'll need the stabilizer not to strengthen the forend- but because it is hollow, if you don't stabilize it, you'll end up with a pile of heavy bedding compound in the forend where the start of the barrel is bedded, also with a potential for air bubbling with such a large fill. You will know what I mean when you go to bed the Ramline so don't worry if you don't understand me at this stage.

The drilling, tapping and Lynx base/rings on your rifle is sturdy. Inspect the barrel at the muzzle and throat to see if it is worth the investment (bedding etc). See my barrel break in article as to how I hold and view the muzzle. To inspect the throat, cock your head/eye off center a few degrees so that you are not looking at the shine of the camber/barrel. Inspect the start of the rifling. If the angle is acute like a well sharpened chisel, the throat is perfect. If its a long slow taper with a grey colour to it, its getting worn. You can take the risk of going ahead with the project and polishing the throat for a revival. I have managed to achieve optimum results in Swedes after doing this- but its always a gamble, you can never really tell.

The rifle has to be bedded. If not, the action can ride on the magazine box and pillars. Try to picture it, if the action is riding on metal- its not touching the stock (not bedded down into the stock). With the Swedes, you have to avoid the other extreme too. If the gap between the action and mag box/pillars is too large, the action won't feed. About 1mm is OK for a gap. People tend to overlook these subtleties of the original rifle.

I will add this note for forum readers:

I had forgotten about the Boyds laminate stock for the M96, was reminded this morning by another site reader (thanks Guy). I had a client buy one of our kits and a Boyds for his Swede. The stock design is the typical Boyds classic, stock strength is optimal. The rifle turned out to be a great shooter. So keep the Boyds in mind as an after market option. The Boyds has a more slippery texture in the forend, the Ramline has a very rough textured forend giving superior grip with optimum field shooting technique. But at Swede recoil levels, both stocks are very good.

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11 Mar 2013
@ 12:42 am (GMT)

Guy Mainland

Re: Swedish Mauser bedding and stabilizing
Thanks for the post Nathan. Usefull info as alway's, although Reloader's got back to me about the ramline stock and they have discontinued the m96 model. So I guess the search goes on! So glad I've chosen a rare rifle to re-stock. Gotta love a challenge! Hopefully the boyd's on trademe won't blow the budget!
11 Mar 2013
@ 01:07 am (GMT)

Matt Reid

Re: Swedish Mauser bedding and stabilizing
If you check the Boyds stock page I believe they have an unfinished stock for around $69US. I purchased a stock from the them not long ago and only took a couple weeks to arrive. Great buying.

Matt
11 Mar 2013
@ 01:50 am (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Swedish Mauser bedding and stabilizing
The M98 is discontinued, the 96 Ramline is still in production as far as I can tell. Dan, if you are reading this, could you confirm when you get a chance.

The Boyds certainly are a good deal. Its not really a problem to get a stock for your Swede. They are still in the game!

11 Mar 2013
@ 02:36 am (GMT)

Guy Mainland

Re: Swedish Mauser bedding and stabilizing
Hi Matt, when you say "not long ago" how long ago is that? I've tried contacting Boyds with no reply and I've heard that as of earier this year they are having trouble getting them here. Seems the laws have changed over there or something recently? Anyway If I email someone repeatedly and get no answer, I take the hint and spend my money somwhere else. Hope you're right about the ramline stocks Nathan I'll try query Dan again.
11 Mar 2013
@ 03:25 am (GMT)

Matt Reid

Re: Swedish Mauser bedding and stabilizing
Probably late last year. I hadn't heard there were shipping issues but got the impression the new website was causing a few dramas.
It's up to you whether you persevere with them, in my experience I had no problems and the stocks are great value.
11 Mar 2013
@ 06:20 am (GMT)

Guy Mainland

Re: Swedish Mauser bedding and stabilizing
Okay thanks Matt and Nathan for your advice. I'm sure either Ramline or Boyds would be just what I need here, if I can get either! Just been alot of gunsmith's and hunting stores around the Wellington region (and Auckland and Christchurch) telling me no way. I'll get something sooner or later. Thanks guys
11 Mar 2013
@ 05:33 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Swedish Mauser bedding and stabilizing
There should be no problems purchasing a Boyds stock, no need to query international shipping. Boyds are commonly shipped to NZ. If there is a problem, it will be found when you are filling out your shipping address- before you are directed to make a payment.

As for Ramline. Here is what I was able to find out. The rifle stocks are made by a company called ATK (anyone familiar with ATK folding stocks etc). The stocks were sold under the banner "Ramline". The business is now being re-structured. The stocks will now be sold under the banner/business "Champion Target". Because of this change, stock is being recoded and rebranded at present and will hopefully be available once again in May. Dan at Reloaders is doing his best to reacquire these gun stocks, having placed an order query presently.
11 Mar 2013
@ 07:00 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Swedish Mauser bedding and stabilizing
Well bugger me. A friend has just phoned and said that a little while ago, NZ post changed their policies to include gun stocks on their prohibited list. Furthermore, a hunter who tried to get a Boyds into NZ recently, had the stock bounced at NZ post, return to sender.

Will have to try and work out how to get packages sent via Fedex or DHL to a residential address in NZ.
12 Mar 2013
@ 03:30 am (GMT)

Guy Mainland

Re: Swedish Mauser bedding and stabilizing
Weird. Why would they do that? It's a peice of wood or plastic. I've also heard of customs turning away a boyd's stock, though that one sounded more like a mistake than the norm. Good to know about the nz post thing though, one hassle avoided! Could be a whole new topic for the forum's! hehe. Thanks for the updates on ramline, Nathan, Dan got back to me, said the same.
12 Mar 2013
@ 04:12 pm (GMT)

Dan Keene

Re: Swedish Mauser bedding and stabilizing
Regarding NZ Post. Their policy has been for at least 18 months that they will not ship any gun parts. They lost a parcel of ours containing an ATI Enfield stock. It was tracked and insured but they wouldnt pay out because "it is a gun part". Thanks NZ Post! We love standing at your undermanned counters for ages to receive piss poor service when we finally get to the front.
12 Mar 2013
@ 04:32 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Swedish Mauser bedding and stabilizing
Unfrigginbelievable Dan.
13 Apr 2013
@ 04:49 pm (GMT)

Guy Mainland

Re: Swedish Mauser bedding and stabilizing
Hi all. Just an up date on the m96-boyds project. I spent a few happy hours in the man cave inletting and bedding the stock, made a couple of minor first timer mistakes with the bedding, but mostly cosmetic. Found out mid week I'd have no mrs or kids for most of the weekend so threw it all back together and hit the range yesterday.
Got it dialled in and was pretty happy with the groups. Roughly 1.5" at 100 yards using superformance, rainy and windy.
It's great to be able to shoot five shot groups without waiting for the barrel to cool now it's floated. The best I'd managed before was 3"-definately a good decision to go with Nathans bedding compound - fun and educational There was a bloke there with the same rifle as mine still in original stock, scoped. Turns out it's an m38. He reckoned he was achieving 1" groups with handloads. Mabey it's time to get into reloading. Damn I think I"ve caught the "must have more accuracy" bug!
Just wanted to say thanks to Nathan and others for the advice on stock choice, etc. I'm going looking for deer now!
13 Apr 2013
@ 09:29 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Swedish Mauser bedding and stabilizing
Thanks Guy.
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