@ 03:06 pm (GMT) |
jasonMost people use a bore guide as you can do damage to the bore.I used to, but don't any more. And from memory, and I could be wrong, Nathan doesn't either. Maybe it comes from which rod and attachments the person is using.... I do like the break in article and use cloth on a brush. Or a brush and that's about it. Maybe the brush bristles keep the metal core of the brush away from damaging the bore. And more centred. I also now have a bore cam, and haven't seen anything in the bore in the way of damage I could blame on my cleaning. What should I be looking for if I am doing damage? Am I a dumb ass for not using a bore guide? |
@ 09:10 pm (GMT) |
Brendon GreigRe: Bore guideI believe the bore guide is to protect the leading edges of the rifling and chamber as once it is in the barrel it can only go straight |
@ 06:04 am (GMT) |
Bryan WebsterRe: Bore guideQuote: I believe the bore guide is to protect the leading edges of the rifling and chamber as once it is in the barrel it can only go straight
Yes, years ago I was pushing a tight patch through a rifle bore and the rod bent a bit - enough so the plasctic coated rod touched the throat area and sliced off a significant amount of the plastic coating. The steel underneath the plastic did some damage to my bore. Since that time, I have always used a good bore guide, like those from Sinclair/Brownells. My present one has rubber "O" rings on both ends to prevent fluids draining into the action as well. |
@ 05:37 pm (GMT) |
Jon ShortRe: Bore guideI recently switched to a Tipton carbon fiber one piece cleaning rod due to the same concerns with cheap screw together rods. I've gone back to using a bore guide after not using one for many years. I use a plastic tip with a slot in it that I pull a patch through rather than a jag & I use a bronze & nylon bristle. I think this is a fairly safe solution?I think what prompted me to do this was buying a Lyman Bore Cam/scope recently & seeing a few minor marks in one of my favorite rifles that could have been from a cleaning rod. Particularly a concern if the sections unscrew a little as you push the rod through.... leaving an exposed sharp edge between the rods that could catch on the rifling or chamber edge leaving a nasty gouge. Best to invest in a decent cleaning rod like the one I mention which I bought through Dan at Reloaders Supplies, Onehunga & a bore guide. |
@ 07:40 pm (GMT) |
jasonRe: Bore guideYes I have a one piece carbon rod. I often wipe it clean as I use it.I'm not saying a bore guide is a bad idea, it was more on another forum a new guy asking for advise. It's probably wise for him to use a bore guide. But nearly everyone said you must use a bore guide first and foremost. Which got me thinking, (now that I have a bore guide) what exactly will happen, or where in the bore and what exactly should I be looking for to see this damage? I'm sure if your rough or have certain rods or attachments damage could occur. But nobody could give me an answer. One thing Nathan has said is, basically don't follow like a sheep, question things, and test theories. |
@ 07:48 pm (GMT) |
jasonRe: Bore guideThat should read ( now that I have a bore cam)Thanks Brendan, than makes sense. So far I havnt seen damage I could blame in this area. Maybe throat wear wears off any cleaning rod marks. Some jags I have seen look nasty and able to do damage. Also Brendan, it makes sense in another way. That I doubt the bore guide would help protect the muzzle as being supported at the chamber and the muzzle being un-supported the rod must slope down from the guide. |
@ 03:41 am (GMT) |
Bryan WebsterRe: Bore guideI also have several of the Tipton carbon fiber rods, and like them fine. |
@ 07:13 am (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: Bore guideWhat about the bore snakes or the old pull through string ? |
@ 02:58 pm (GMT) |
Bryan WebsterRe: Bore guideQuote: What about the bore snakes or the old pull through string ?
Sometimes when done shooting at the range and I have no rod I will pass a Viper Boresnake through the bore around 3 or 4 times. Really take care on the muzzle end. Also I have taken to dosing the bore snake with KROIL or same on a rod and patch before heading for home. This tends to break down carbon deposits and makes cleaning less of a chore for when I get home, where I normally will remove the carbon and leave copper alone unless the bore tells me it has to come out. |
@ 01:55 am (GMT) |
Bryan WebsterRe: Bore guideForgot to add that when backpacking we always used to carry a pullthorough and some gun oil in a small container. |