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7mm RM Berger 168gr performance

05 Oct 2016
@ 02:39 pm (GMT)

Charles Turner

I shot 3 fallow bucks with a 168gr Berger VLD last weekend with 3 different POIs, and thought I'd share the results. Shots were fired from a Blaser R93 at 2960fps. I checked all bullets with a drawing pin for hollow point depth before loading, I also rotate the pin in the HP to slightly widen or uniform the me plat. The bucks were shot in the neck, shoulder and lungs respectively.

The first was a mature rutting buck (rut seems to have started early) shot in the neck at about 50 yards. Mature rutting fallow bucks have very thick necks, but I was surprised to find that the bullet did not exit. I did however inadvertently shoot through a branch just in front of the buck. This must have initiated bullet expansion, as evidenced by the large entrance hole visible behind the ear below.



The buck died instantly, and had a shattered jaw. I didn't take a pic of the internal damage, after gralloching it was hard to really see anything. The buck weighed 145lb in the larder (no gralloch, head or legs).

The 2nd buck was shot in the shoulder at about 100 yards. He dropped to the shot and expired quickly. Again the bullet did not exit, however this time the enhance wound was practically inviable, I gave up looking after a while. After gralloching it was evident that the front shoulder was broken and the internals scrambled. The bullet only left bruising on the off side of the ribs.


on side shoulder


off side

Again this was a mature buck, it weighed 150lb in the larder.

The third buck was a pricket and was shot behind the shoulder at about 100yrds, and weighed 90lb in the larder. The pricket was aware of my presence and ran about 20yrds after the shot. The bullet showed good expansion and exited.

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Exit

As you can see the bullet hit a rib on the way in, creating a larger hole than the exit.

Over all I was happy with the performance, and whilst these were all at close range they show rapid expansion and kill quickly. I'd happily use them at longer distance. I'll use them again in a couple of weeks when the rut should be in full swing.

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05 Oct 2016
@ 02:44 pm (GMT)

Charles Turner

Re: 7mm RM Berger 168gr performance
OK, some of my pics didn't work and I can't edit…

Entrance on first buck



Damage on shoulder shot buck



lack of damage on the off side of same buck

05 Oct 2016
@ 06:51 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: 7mm RM Berger 168gr performance
Some very good wounding Charles.

Please do be careful when using these at longer ranges. Berger have now finally admitted to the same range limitations as I listed in the Cartridges book. If you want to use this bullet at long range, I would ask that you use more than just a pin to open up the meplat. Please See VLD annealing in the Cartridge research section of the KB.
31 Oct 2016
@ 01:23 am (GMT)

Lane Salvato

Re: 7mm RM Berger 168gr performance
That's a huge deer! Congratulations.
31 Oct 2016
@ 04:22 am (GMT)

Paul Leverman

Re: 7mm RM Berger 168gr performance
Nice buck, Charles. From a North American point of view, the rack kind of looks like an inverted moose, with some elk and caribou thrown in for good luck. Very unique formations. Again, nice buck.
31 Oct 2016
@ 02:55 pm (GMT)

Charles Turner

Re: 7mm RM Berger 168gr performance
Thanks guys. Here's a pic of the other mature buck for those that are interested, It's the one shot in the shoulder from above. It was very lucky to see two mature bucks in a day, they are beautiful animals.





They are both nice bucks. I've got them both cleaned up now. Here they are next to a buck that scored 165 CIC, which is mid bronze (its the one mounted on a shield).





31 Oct 2016
@ 03:07 pm (GMT)

Charles Turner

Re: 7mm RM Berger 168gr performance
Thanks guys. Here's a pic of the other mature buck for those that are interested, It's the one shot in the shoulder from above. It was very lucky to see two mature bucks in a day, they are beautiful animals.






They are both nice bucks. I've got them both cleaned up now. Here they are next to a buck that scored 165 CIC, which is mid bronze (its the one mounted on a shield).





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