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Todays POS

16 Mar 2016
@ 10:15 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Rifle of the day (as it sits on my bench in front of me).

Remington model 742 semi auto in .243 (was never a reliable model to begin with).

From the outside, the rifle looks very nice. If you know nothing about guns you might think it was quite stylish. The blue looks good, the timber is elegant. It would look pretty at auction.

Rifle weighs approximately the same as a small school bus but obviously still too much recoil and noise as it has a suppressor fitted to it. The trigger is heavy and creepy, shooting it would be akin to trying to open a heavy old door with one finger.

It has a 5 million power scope from a dubious manufacturer, perfectly suited to this minute of barn door rig.

The muzzle has a nice generous spattering of rust from the suppressor trapping moisture.

The bore looks like a chimney and has never been cleaned. Even if it was cleaned, its a semi, you can't easily get in from behind and scrub out the crap thrown back in from the suppressor.

All in all, this rifle is a bust. I might be able to get it up and running, who knows and really who cares after what has already been done to the bore.

Lesson: read my book series. It will save you a good deal of money long term.




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16 Mar 2016
@ 11:11 pm (GMT)

Sebastian Shand

Re: Todays POS
She sounds like a beautiful set up Nathan, it must shit you to tears some of the rifles people send in.
17 Mar 2016
@ 03:51 am (GMT)

Thomas Kitchen

Re: Todays POS
sounds like a Sten gun would be better to hunt with.
17 Mar 2016
@ 07:01 am (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: Todays POS
Or a slam fire shotgun Google it?
17 Mar 2016
@ 08:45 am (GMT)

Mike Davis

Re: Todays POS
sounds like you having a bad day Bud
a worn ,tired,rusty EBRG sounds like just the ticket for.....for....for??????
yeah nah...cant think of a use......
I dislike twoforfrees on a good day but one that is a shitter and wont shoot straight is about as much use as mammary glands on a male bovine.
17 Mar 2016
@ 03:49 pm (GMT)

Ricardo Laborin

Re: Todays POS
I want to contribute to today's POS, in a different manner....Here's my proposal!!!



17 Mar 2016
@ 08:06 pm (GMT)

Martin Taylor

Re: Todays POS
I think old mate Wayne should learn to hang on to that forend & get a scope with some eye relief before Mr Weatherby knocks on his scone!

hahahahaaaa
17 Mar 2016
@ 09:08 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Todays POS
Looking back on this job, even if the owner had kept the rifle 'moderately' clean (it looks like it was kept in good condition otherwise), the suppressor was the death blow. I could see that this was a relatively new addition, quite new. Yet in that space of time, the muzzle had become heavily pitted and there was pitting within the barrel. keep in mind that had there been corrosion prior to the suppressor, this surely would have been cleaned up / machined off when the suppressor was fitted so all pitting is post suppressor.

I am actually surprised this rifle still cycled with the level of caked carbon at the chamber. This was also quite hard on the gas system.

I have to ask myself who is more to blame for the degradation of this rifle; the guy who wanted it fitted but then took no care of the bore or the guy who was eager to fit it but offered no further instructions.
18 Mar 2016
@ 06:18 am (GMT)

Cor Nepgen

Re: Todays POS
Hi Nathan,

I get where you are coming from with both the person who fitted as well as the owner. I have had a fair amount of discussions with people regarding good practice and what might happen if a suppressor is fitted (specifically light contour barrels). I find most people are not interested in learning, information is freely available and if you want to know and do your research you will find the answers.

I may be wrong but I think especially fire arm owners should hold themselves to a high standard to ensure the rifle performs as intended. Not saying I don't have sympathy for the owner, I guess I have just become used to people going after popular modifications just because...

Still think your books are worth every cent, allowing owners to make informed decisions and properly look after their kit.

Cheers,

Cor
19 Mar 2016
@ 02:24 pm (GMT)

john feyereisn

Re: Todays POS
i hunt with a few guys that shoot those or another variant, it seems like about every other shot they jam for the "first time ever".
If someone wanted a semi auto for deer hunting at average ranges what would you recomend an AR? Browning BAR? i know the BAR is not perfect but it has to be better than a 742
19 Mar 2016
@ 09:04 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: Todays POS
MG42, 50Cal Browning, Dillon mini gun, A10 Warthog? Mi-24 Hind? They won't jam! and should put some tender loin on the table. Nathan will take em to evaluate the individual platform's for POS status.
19 Mar 2016
@ 09:14 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Todays POS
Tough call John. The BAR has nice lines like the 742 but in truth the AR rifles can be made very accurate. The triggers can be swapped out, the forends can be floated. The AR-10 7.62 chambering is very potent.

Nevertheless, people still need to understand that it takes quite a lot of experience to become truly proficient at fast follow up shots with a semi. As most of you know, if you stuff up your first shot on a deer and miss, the animals move so quickly that a follow up shot is moot. If a hunter hits the deer but for some reason hits too far bag (lets say a twig caused deflection), a good hunter with a bolt action will stay focused on the deer, work his action (without even being aware of it) and be ready for a pause.
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