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When I Don't Listen

05 Jun 2021
@ 02:43 pm (GMT)

Lane Salvato

I've tried hard in my setup and in my practicing to follow Nathan's advice. That said there has been one thing I've not been able to do right. He suggested that I have one standard cartridge and one magnum and practice with both. Sound advice! Makes all the sense in the world.

The problem is that I just love guns and I love calibers. So instead of my 308 and my 338, I've ended up with too many.

My 308 is tuned up the best and it's the one that gets the most practice when ammo is available. But by golly that's my weakness. Does anyone else share this weakness? Or do I owe Nathan an apology??

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10 Jun 2021
@ 11:29 am (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: When I Don't Listen
Hi Lane, I do have a few readers who have gone the other way and have narrowed their kit down to just the one rifle, generally either a .280 (or .280 AI) or a .30-06 rifle, sporting weight with medium power optics.

Of course, being that you own both a .280 and .30-06, it kind of muddies the waters a bit. But a Texan with just one gun would be kind of like a Dodge Charger with an electric motor, just doesn't seem right.
11 Jun 2021
@ 12:23 am (GMT)

John D Hays - New Mexico

Re: When I Don't Listen

As the late, great David Bowie’s commented, “Too much is never enough.”

And, of course, John Lennon advised, “Happiness is a warm gun.”

Who am I to argue?
11 Jun 2021
@ 04:22 am (GMT)

Frank Vallich

Re: When I Don't Listen
For ungulates I've narrowed the calibre to .308. Two rifles though. Open sights for 0 - 150 yards and scoped for the maximum of 600 yards (Have thoroughly enjoyed improving my distance targeting). No magnum (yet?). This may change as I'm foraging out to the mountains this year.
11 Jun 2021
@ 07:19 am (GMT)

Scott Struif

Re: When I Don't Listen
600 yards on an ungulate seems like a stretch with a 308, but with a frangible bullet I suppose it’s possible. At that range, I wouldn’t trust a 30-06 . . . you’re pretty much lobbing the projectile. I leave hunting at those ranges to the experts . . . wouldn’t attempt it myself.
11 Jun 2021
@ 09:08 am (GMT)

Frank Vallich

Re: When I Don't Listen
I'm not an X(unknown quantity) spert(drip under pressure) yet the168 gr. Federal Berger Hybrid Hunter spits out with consistent groups down range. Using the last of the Hornady ELD X for continued weekly practice. I was impressed with the ELDX. The Hornady are a slightly longer bullet at 178 gr. The 168s provide the consistency for the scoped rifle. No added tip to front of bullet. Has the look of a match grade. Long narrow cutline usually have minimal wind. One lessened variance for down range accuracy. I might even go 650 yards for an elk. Would be difficult not to attempt!



12 Jun 2021
@ 09:52 am (GMT)

David Lenzi

Re: When I Don't Listen
I keep telling myself to do this... I attempted it briefly, standardized on .30 cal even. I had a nice K31 for iron sighted fun, a a M70 that I slowly customized. Then I bought a target rifle... and another project rifle... and another project rifle. Now I find myself looking to off load some of those project guns.

I really like .30-06... I'd do it again, but as an AI, just on GP (because if I'm going to get a custom barrel, why not get one that'll be easier on brass for loading a give my marginally better performance?).

.30-06 considerations below:
I consider the -06 to by 600 yd capable, even in my hands. I load the 195 TMK to 2675 fps --> 78 inches of drop w/ 200 yd zero. 2650 fps --> 80 inches of drop, 2700 fps --> 76 inches of drop. Quality hand loads should be within that ES without issue.
12 Jun 2021
@ 10:01 am (GMT)

Scott Struif

Re: When I Don't Listen
Frank, I checked the LR Cartridges book to see if a 650-yard shot on an elk is feasible with a 308. Yes, it is! But the book gives you max range / max animal-weight (with a given bullet - an ELD-X - as you pointed out). Just because something is feasible doesn’t mean it’s OK to attempt, unless you know what you’re doing.
12 Jun 2021
@ 01:14 pm (GMT)

Lane Salvato

Re: When I Don't Listen
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Hi Lane, I do have a few readers who have gone the other way and have narrowed their kit down to just the one rifle, generally either a .280 (or .280 AI) or a .30-06 rifle, sporting weight with medium power optics.

Of course, being that you own both a .280 and .30-06, it kind of muddies the waters a bit. But a Texan with just one gun would be kind of like a Dodge Charger with an electric motor, just doesn't seem right.


That's so true Nathan! I like the 280 AI the best because it's close enough to the 270 which I used all my life but better ballistics, etc. Problem is now it's difficult for components. Enter then 308 and 30-06. If I'd started with the 30-06 I would stick with it but since I started with the 308 at least for now I have to stick with it. When things ease up I'll definitely want to play with the 280 AI. Great for open country but fine for brush and smaller species as well. As you know Texas is the second biggest state with the second smallest white-tails (Thank you South Florida!)
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