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@ 12:51 am (GMT) |
Martin TaylorRe: ELD-X initial findingsEven with the low velocity and Kelvin's unwanted PIO that is still a very good amount of trauma delivered with no bone to assist expansion etc! May end up to be every bit as good as Hornady state.Will be interesting to see at 1600 with bone contact on entry....... I may have to reassess my 123gn varminting plans for my future 6.5mm build if it continues to perform in this way. Good stuff!! |
@ 12:59 am (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: ELD-X initial findingsYes- it really is nice to see performance aligned with company statements. Don't see enough of this these days. |
@ 06:11 am (GMT) |
Cor NepgenRe: ELD-X initial findingsThank you very much for the post Nathan, really appreciate it. I have been very curious since they have been announced and seems like it will fit the bill very well for the kind of hunting I have in mind.Thanks a bunch. |
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@ 06:11 am (GMT) |
Cor NepgenRe: ELD-X initial findingsThank you very much for the post Nathan, really appreciate it. I have been very curious since they have been announced and seems like it will fit the bill very well for the kind of hunting I have in mind.Thanks a bunch. |
@ 10:02 am (GMT) |
Andy StewartRe: ELD-X initial findingsHave run out of 140gn Amax for my 6.5x55, had them running at 2800fps and they were good killers at all sorts of ranges, have switched to the 130gn Berger at 2950fps, and it works too, but am building a .264 Win Mag at the mo, if it will shoot them I plan to use the 130gn Swift Scirocco and look at the ELDX, I like the weight and BC combination, starting at around 3200fps they should get way out there, but, not sure about the new Hornady bullet at genuine speed. Mostly chasing Tahr.Hey Nathan, If you have shot the ELDX down to 1600 odd fps, you might have an idea if the drops match the given Hornady's given BC? |
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@ 08:48 pm (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: ELD-X initial findingsHi Andy, drops were fine. Have to keep in mind that Hornady have been putting everything over doplar these last months.Your situation is the kind where a bullet like this can excel. It will have the reach and is nice and soft but you do need that interlock and frontal area reduction just to make sure the bullet is well past that heavy hide before everything is fully set in motion at ranges of 200-300 yards. It can be hard to find a 6.5 bullet that is really consistent for certain applications so you are forced to dual load (not that this is a bad thing). But this might allow some folk (but not all) to run a single load. Not sure if you will be able to get away with this though because I suspect that the 6.5 ELD-X will work best at around 2900fps impact and down, does OK at 3000fps impact but a bit iffy, runs into trouble at 3100fps and above (that would be bush or creek gut hunting for you). What you will have to watch out for is heavy round ball joints at close ranges. If you shoot a Thar at 100 yards quartering on above you (you may already be familiar with this), you risk this shot. That said, you will get a follow up shot away with that level of trauma. For dual loading, I would prefer to load a like weight bullet with a lower BC so that it does not shoot higher than your ELD-X. This is just one reason why I recommend the 140gr Partition. Remember to treat everything in this post as theory for your magnum. I need to test more and also gain reader feedback so that we really know this inside and out. |
@ 06:09 am (GMT) |
Thomas KitchenRe: ELD-X initial findingsThank you for doing updates Nathansounds like these projectiles have a lot of potential look forwards to more updates. im hoping the bring out a 270 projectile next somewhere between 150-160gr would be nice. one thing i did notice that the 30 cal 212gr had a better BC then the 30 cal 220gr 212gr G1 .673 220gr G1 .650 |
@ 03:19 pm (GMT) |
Bryan WebsterRe: ELD-X initial findingsHere is a link to Hornady's web site for downloading what they have for reloading these:http://www.hornady.com/support/downloads/load-data |
@ 09:34 pm (GMT) |
Chris LakeRe: ELD-X initial findingsQuote: Thank you for doing updates Nathan
sounds like these projectiles have a lot of potential look forwards to more updates. im hoping the bring out a 270 projectile next somewhere between 150-160gr would be nice. one thing i did notice that the 30 cal 212gr had a better BC then the 30 cal 220gr 212gr G1 .673 220gr G1 .650 That's because they designed the 220 to run from mag length constraints. The 212 is optimized for performance. |
@ 09:13 am (GMT) |
Mark WalkerRe: ELD-X initial findingsI'd been keen to hear if anyone has tried the 162grn 7mm, I'd like to see how'd they go in my 280rem |
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@ 12:28 am (GMT) |
Bryan WebsterRe: ELD-X initial findings - Anyone using the ELD-X 7mm 162 grain.Got a box finally and am going to try them in my 7mm Remington Magnum with H1000 seated to a COAL of 3.426 inches.I would appreciate anyone using the same to join in. |
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@ 01:45 am (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: ELD-X initial findingsI have mine here. Initial tests in the 7mm Practical. Will be some time before I gather other data for other cartridges sorry. |
@ 02:07 am (GMT) |
Chris MurphyRe: ELD-X initial findingsIve got the 175s set with 75.5 grn of 2217 doing 3140 in the practical was hoping to have some photos from the weekend but fucked it up =( |
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@ 02:48 pm (GMT) |
Bryan WebsterRe: ELD-X initial findingsTHanks Chris. I have some of the 175 grain ELD-X bullets as well but my rifle has a 1:9.5 twist and they recommend a 1:8 twist, so I went for the 162 grain bullets. Have yet to shoot any.It liked the 162 grain A-max, shooting into sub 0.5 moa out to 600 yards, and the 162 grain should do what I want it to as I have used the 160 grain Speer Hotcor bullets for years on moose and elk here. |
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@ 08:58 pm (GMT) |
Bryan WebsterRe: ELD-X initial findingsWell I hit the range today with my 7mm Remington Magnum and some of my loads with ELD-X 162 grain Hornady rounds.Three fouling shots were under 0.5 inches and low and to the right. Adjusted the turret and waited ten minutes while others were putting up targets and so on, then shot a 5 shot group and found all under 0.5 inches. So far I have done no experimenting with altering the seating depth or the load, so am just going hunting with these over the next few days or so. Load was as follows: New Winchester brass, full length sized, trimmed etc. Primer pockets got the full treat and filled with Federal GM215M Magnum primers. Load is 67 grains of H1000. (Hornady Max is 68.5 grains). Seating depth used is 3.426" of Cartridge overall length. When I get more ambitious I will do the ogive measurements etc.. The rifle presently has a Leupold 3.5 to 10 x 40 scope and shots were done at 10x. If I had used my higher magnifiction Sightron things might have been tighter groups but so far it is what it is, so it is time to stop fussing around and go hunt. |
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@ 09:15 am (GMT) |
Chris MurphyRe: ELD-X initial findingsBryan they say 8.5 mine is a 9 and shoots .35moa not sure if it is the speed helping you should give them a go |
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@ 11:30 pm (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: ELD-X initial findingsPM sent.Note to others. Max COAL's are long so please double check in your rifles (like TMK). The 175gr stabilizes fine in the 7mm Rem Mag. Load pressures seem fine, easy to work with. This bullet will be 'the fix' for some finicky rifles (internal dimension issues). Other notes: Expect very high weight loss at close ranges / tough game. Comes into its own below 2800fpsfps where 50% retention is expected. In close, the heavy jacket and interlock can be seen as "some extra insurance". Previous notes in my initial post still stand. Consider as high BC SST. An SST with increased effective range. Interesting to me- seeing some close similarities to the TMK in more ways than one. |
@ 03:17 pm (GMT) |
Charles TurnerRe: ELD-X initial findingsThanks Nathan, Is the Rem Mag you used for the 175's a 9 twist? |
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@ 07:48 pm (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: ELD-X initial findingsHi Charles, yes, this one is 1:9. Having said this, I have been waiting a while for a bullet like this as I have a few clients who have Senderos which shoot at their very best with a very heavy pill. The 175gr will work exceptionally well in these. |
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@ 10:02 pm (GMT) |
Bryan WebsterRe: ELD-X initial findingsDid some loads starting at 67 grains of H1000 and worked up in .2 grain increments for 5 rounds each to 72.5 grains.Hornday lists their max load for this powder at 68.5 grains and strangely that is right where the load groups into one ragged hole of 5 rounds measuring 0.382 of an inch on centers. The bullet did well on a mature bull moose at 150 yards. He was standing broadside so took him in the neck just below the ear. The bullet went right through leaving a 2 inch exit hole. I had been using a recent gift of a Leupold VX3 2 to 10 x40 scope and it stopped honouring my dialing in during this fun. Replaced it with my Sightron S-TAC2.5-17.5X56 IR MOA scope and kept on shooting with no further issues |
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@ 10:20 pm (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: ELD-X initial findingsAny photos Bryan? |
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@ 05:04 am (GMT) |
Chris MurphyRe: ELD-X initial findingsHere is a 175 eld x pulled from soft dirt at 1000 retained velocity of 1800fpsNot autopsy but interesting as the amax look the same from same bank. 
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@ 05:35 am (GMT) |
Bryan WebsterRe: ELD-X initial findingsQuote: Any photos Bryan?
Sorry Nathan, but I left my Cell phone at my truck again. Too many calls otherwise |
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@ 03:00 pm (GMT) |
Bryan WebsterRe: ELD-X initial findingsHello Chris.quote: Here is a 175 eld x pulled from soft dirt at 1000 retained velocity of 1800fps What has your muzzle velocity been for the above load? |
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@ 06:55 pm (GMT) |
Chris MurphyRe: ELD-X initial findings3140fps mv |
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