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Andrew MurrayRe: Voting day todayMan it seems like your lot have their heads screwed on for the most part. You can't even say firearm in Australia without people losing their minds. |
@ 04:27 pm (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: Voting day todayLol yeah Nathan. I enrolled and voted yesterday. Last time I was 18. I have always found that none of the options ever really did anything to make me bother? Having to choose from shit options I'll choose none of them and make no bones about it. I'd love to see a box with None of the above available to tick! It would keep the lying mongrels on their toes. ..... But this time I read the old Dogs booklet. I love our country and fellow Landsmen. We mow our own lawns first and look after our children with care and common sense . I truly think that the Government is the countries parent's and should care and look after the people and the people's land before all other things. I don't mean as a nanny state either. Teaching kids how to think we'll and analyse the facts looking for truths and possessing the will to have a will. Positive fair loving people. Happy to have enough! Not always insisting on More. Fat guts and stupid thinking seems like the norm these days.Anyway the majority of voters are easily led so statistically you have more factory loaded ho hum voters than carefully hand loaded ones. And then there is the media Twist rates to put a spin on it.........its all about divide and rule. Split up the herd and create a confusion. So you'll never see an amazing loving government. |
@ 06:22 pm (GMT) |
Thomas KitchenRe: Voting day todayNathan Nathan Nathan didn't anyone ever tell you not to talk politics or religion on the internet lol.i normally sit about middle on most things. i do really worry about your so called red mates when it comes to my firearms specially with o'connor in the mix. teaming up with those green ones makes it even worse Auckland kinder wears the brunt of policies made in wellington. i have seen so much corruption in the housing market now to not be able to support the current government. i understand why it is how it is, mass immigration equals high demand equals high employment. i was running numbers on my house to prove appoint to my mother inlaw the other day. i live in a modest 90m 3 bedroom house built in the 80's in a modest to lower income neighbour hood. i got semi decent land at just over 700m but its not subdividable so there's no real value in it. its roughly worth 550k running 550k through a mortgage calculator thats a repayment of almost $700 a week. that's an entry level house in a cheap suburb. rent would be around $500 a week. no wonder the local park has at least 6 cars parked up a night with people sleeping in them no matter ever which way we look at it that make things bad specially if you have a family to support. we do a lot of what called affordable/first home buyer houses these are normally 2 bedroom houses or attached houses on under 300sq's and they are capped at a max of 600k so really affordable lol manufacturing is what we need, you only have to look around the world to see that countries that were manufacturers but aren't anymore have gone down hill and countries that weren't but now are is booming. ill always go out of my way to buy a nz made product over an import for this reason alone. p.s great to see you guys in some swazi gear on videos. i recommend far south fine knit woolen singlets to |
@ 10:28 pm (GMT) |
Mike DavisRe: Voting day todayvoted todat so allowed to whinge.....we dont have a housing crisis.......what we have is a problem getting into first home if we help say 3rd-4th generation or better KIWIS into first home with realistic cap on it....that frees up bottom end rentals straight away,gets kiwis who havent owned a home before onto the ladder and lets clever builders--------investors etc get off thier bums and build simple basic homes in areas around country where price is realistic (say $300k)and pretty much have guaranteed sale before first nail is driven. its a pity Alan Simmons party has managed to barely raise a blip on the radar...they have some really good ideas and have the sporting/hunting/fishing communities best interests at heart without the radicle aspect attached. what is with the 0.3% support for the hooch smoking party????? even that seems to rate higher than other minor parties who actually want to do good. went for hunt today but deer werent playing ball so didnt squeeze trigger,a great wander out in the wonderful kiwi bush all the same. take care out there guys and please keep your bangsticks secure. |
@ 08:51 am (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Voting day todayWell, seeing as I am about to delete this post, I can share the following with those of you who posted.For several years, I had an ACT member as a client. Polish by decent with memories of eastern bloc regimes. He had two roles. The first was his actual role in advising government on pandemics (doctor by trade). The second was his political role, rooting out true communists. Over the camp fire, he would become livid, animated, almost insane with what he had seen. This was a man who gave his life to try to help kiwis keep their freedoms. He simply lived his job. He needed to go bush but even this only took the edge off the things going around in his head. In parliament, he would call out various persons on their deliberate attempts to usurp absolute power, conversations where (at the time Helen) or her staff would declare that the people were too stupid to make their own decisions and should not be allowed to make any. When National finally got in after 9 years, I said to him, you must be pleased, this will make ACT stronger. He replied, no, it doesn't work that way. In the Stalinist model, they need only 9 years to derail the system. At this point, there are so many socialist government departments set in place feeding off taxpayer money that it cannot be eradicated in one election. If a right wing government tries to swing back the other way, the public cannot handle the sudden change and it can be a very difficult process to slowly untangle government interference. There was more to this but you will get my meaning. For him, the road to non interference would be a very long and slow process. Then one year my client stopped coming. It was only through another peer in the NZ gun industry that I heard that my client's son had died (age around 21). This totally destroyed my client as it would. Since then, I do not know who has been carrying this flame. I do not know of anyone physically traveling to eastern Europe to check up on what some of our die hard stalinists have been up to. And yes, I understand the housing and land situation after living in hovels till age 40. It was killer getting our first house. We also really wanted to buy a rough block for hunting research. But greedy kiwis have put it all out of reach locally, blocks of land being sold at twice their GV because as we all know, manuka honey is worth a gazzilion dollars per punnet and every year is a good year with no bad weather. Some balance would be nice here. Folk have made this impossible for their own kids. The same as selling cows to China. My buddy Helmut does the vet checks and we are selling tens of thousands of cows. By now we will be getting close to selling the equivalent of our entire production capacity from past years. We have folk from the hospital collecting farmers and taking them to inpatients, loading them with benzos with little else to offer other than "John Kirwin got through it". Not the best at all. All of this will simply have to run its course. The clock cannot be turned back on any of it. Was Helen right? Are we too stupid, too greedy. Was my man wrong. In some cases yes, we have the proof of this. But I know I am not greedy, I have worked my ass off to raise Riley right and am always thinking- how will my actions effect her. But still, I do get where folk are coming from, from both ends of the political spectrum. As I get older, regardless of my love for guns, I think a quick look at a poli party's gun policies gives an immediate idea of how each party view citizens and whether they believe citizens are deserving of freedoms or whether they think people 'must be controlled'. Some of you may find this hard to understand but when we were at SHOT, we were armed, the cops were armed, the security staff was armed, everyone was armed- over 70,000 folk. I have never felt safer or more supported- it was a wonderful, warm, nurturing environment of equals. The media would have us believe that U.S citizens are crazy. Its just not so, they are a truly warm, caring, enthusiastic bunch of folk with a lot of love in their hearts. Politics is never easy and as I said, I get where folk are coming from, from both ends of the spectrum. Damned right about manufacturing Thomas. I was in the hills with Dave Manson, got hellish cold and I was cursing myself for not bringing wool as I find fleece doesn't cut it when it gets to zero with wind and rain. But I also find myself annoyed that others are not as passionate as myself in their own fields- just get off your asses, think outside the box and develop some decent wool layers (or whatever it is you are into) to compete in the outdoor game against fleece (even Swazi have to import this). I just don't get this. My best wool top is feckin Norwegian and about 30 years old. So here I am designing yet another wool top in my head thinking- where the fks all of our wool going. Yes, quite True Murray, we have some great guys here. I can respect our guys arguing both ends of the spectrum as there very valid concerns both ways. We have a great bunch here. My best to you all. |
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