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Firearm Laws and the illusion of safety

16 Dec 2019
@ 06:04 am (GMT)

Frank Vallich

The following article denotes the methodology of governments to appease the flock into believing they (government) are creating a safer society. Canada is no different as the demonizing of firearms and their owners continues until one day no law abiding citizen will posses a firearm.

Possibility exists to create felons, that are currently law abiding citizens, as rather than educate the flock the artful methodology of illusion is best for grabbing those headlines and persecuting law abbiding citizens while the criminal element has status quo.

A theory I have is once all the firearms in Canada are banned and the criminals continue to access these weapons the USA will then ban firearms as the illegal smuggling will not stop. Bloomberg in the USA is donating millions of $ to eradicate firearms, except for his personal army of "Body Guards".

The article:

Smoldering in New Zealand: With only a week before time is up to sell the government their newly-outlawed guns, many in New Zealand haven’t... “The clock is ticking on the last opportunity to receive payment for prohibited firearms and parts, or to hand over unwanted or unlawful guns without fear of prosecution under the amnesty,” said [police minister stuart ] Nash in a statement. “If people don’t hand in the other prohibited firearms and parts by 20 Dec. they will get no money and will face up to five years in prison and the loss of their firearms license.” While hundreds of gun owners have applied for special permits to keep their banned firearms, and others have modified their collection to meet new mandates, pundits feel that many are simply staying away. “[nash] has failed to engage with the firearms community and they’re responding by not engaging with the buyback,” said Brett Hudson with the New Zealand National Party, a group that holds just under half of the seats in the country’s House of Representatives. Worse Hudson pointed out that criminals aren’t turning in their guns either. “Gangs are not complying with the buyback and we are seeing no action from the Government to tackle the problems of illegal firearm use, with the focus seemingly on the law-abiding firearms community,” said Hudson

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17 Dec 2019
@ 05:07 pm (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: Firearm Laws and the illusion of safety
If the Powers that be decide to change laws. They make a plan to change them and then go about getting them changed. How ever long it takes to make the law change,Is just part of their plan? Getting rid of guns eventually is what they're intention's are and will be focused on.
So a series of gradual stepping stones will be used to get from "Citizens with guns" to "A Gun less Citizen". By using Rule creep, manipulation of unfortunate events, News media graphic coverage of killings, demonizing guns and their owners, abuse of privilege and position, fear mongering, Collective punishments, Ammo restrictions, increase of License fees, more assessments, compliance, requirement increases, Less Shooting Clubs, more Range compliance rules, Fees and restrictions. If you think of it they'll use it to get from one side of the river of laws too the other. Eventually the laws will be changed..... Now they have Guns under control. Access denied too all except the Military and Police and that's how why and what they'll do to get compliance and provide "Safer communities for all" I'm not saying that it's bad. Just want to know who's safety that its Safer for? and Sustainable for whom???? And How will my grandchildren kill some meat for the freezer?

The information if your interested
https://www.safecommunities.org.nz/about-us/about-us

International Safety Standards

Based on international safety standards, Safe Communities is recommended as an effective approach by the World Health Organization (WHO). This initiative sparked community action around the world leading to Safe Communities through injury prevention and safety education. SCFNZ can draw on global research and resources in injury prevention, safety management systems and crime prevention through environmental design, for safe community development.

SCFNZ is a Support and Accrediting Centre of the Pan Pacific Safe Communities Network (PPSCN), which brings together Safe Communities from New Zealand, Australia, United States of America and Canada – working closely on injury prevention and community safety management systems. The PPSCN is currently in the process of developing official relations with the WHO.

Sustainable Development Goals W

The Global Goals for Sustainable Development 2030 were born at the United Nations Conference on Sustainable Development in Rio de Janeiro in 2012.These replace the Millennium Development Goals 2000-2015 which focused specifically on developing countries.

The 17 Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs) goals and 169 targets set out a universal agenda to achieve sustainable development globally, known as Agenda 2030.
https://unstats.un.org/sdgs/metadata/?Text=&Goal=16&Target=16.1

https://unchronicle.un.org/article/advancing-disarmament-within-2030-agenda-sustainable-development
18 Dec 2019
@ 02:46 am (GMT)

Frank Vallich

Re: Firearm Laws and the illusion of safety
So, "The idea that disarmament and arms control are connected to development is not new". We can twist this statement to the benefit of those with the power. Look at the former Yugoslavia. While Tito and his assassins maintained control and were provided armaments the value of the Dinar on the world market was low allowing this state to be utilized for the convenience of the free world as a vacation paradise. All was well but you couldn't stop the hate.

Let us view this globally:

There are only 3 countries in the world without a Rothschild-owned central bank: Cuba, North Korea and Iran. The US Federal Reserve is a privately owned company (controlled by the Rothschilds, Rockefellers and Morgans) and prints the money for the US Government. The USA is the current policeman of the world ensuring global commodities arrive without disruption. The power of USA greenback is being threatened though with crypto currencies. USA sanctions through the control of funds punishes the population of the targeted countries. Famin, disease etc. The countries suffering from these sanctions have weaker armaments and therefore can be bullied/manipulated as there are insufficient resources for retaliation other than Guerrilla warfare:

Guerrilla warfare is a form of irregular warfare in which small groups of combatants, such as paramilitary personnel, armed civilians, or irregulars, use military tactics including ambushes, sabotage, raids, petty warfare, hit-and-run tactics, and mobility, to fight a larger and less-mobile traditional military. Guerrilla groups are a type of violent non-state actor.

Scale this back down to a local city but where? Customs of the people over centuries will define the benefits or show examples of how ones lives reality and how it changes with power. Let’s pick the power to live safely in society? Where? Let’s choose one that you and I live in, a democracy. Freedom of choice to educate yourself and move forward or stand still as life choices are made for you due to demographics. The rich become wealthier and the day to day burden of life grinds you down having you seek out alternate paths or remain in the flock.

Let’s select the home. So now you’re a woman of a flock and seek safety after experiencing violence in the home. Court orders, restraining orders, it all looks great on paper but you live in fear. Now you’re a senior living alone and you’re targeted by thugs who know this and want specific property. What do you do? Call the authorities and wait 1 or 2 hours, possibly a day, yes a day as violence in one Canadian city (Winnipeg) has increased dramatically over the past year and there is a queue for responding to calls of a violent nature. Do we educate and provide choices. Build a safe room and retreat. Fine if you have the money. Do we enforce a law against violence by sentencing offenders to incarceration? Doesn’t appear to be having a positive effect of reducing violent crimes in our democratic society. Do we empower ourselves and retaliate with force? At least we currently have choices to arm ourselves but slowly those options are eroding. Those in power live a safe life with minimal or no threats and pass laws believing that law abiding citizens will follow the rules. Good thought but lacks the reality of dealing with others ill intents upon your person.
Truth or consequences: Unfortunately truth is fleeting and all we have is consequences.
19 Dec 2019
@ 02:51 am (GMT)

Warwick Marflitt

Re: Firearm Laws and the illusion of safety
Frank you know it !

But what do we do? I haven't brought into the systems of voluntary slavery! No house, no debt, no savings, No wife. Free to go and do as and when I please, Some people hate me for it. I just try to copy the deer and live from sunrise to sunset sleep and repeat..... Oh and like the Deer I try not to get shot.....

Governments are Just like farmers trying to look after their sheep and cattle. Having enough pasture to feed them, dogs to muster them,good fences to keep them on the farm and the wolves, disease's and undesirable neighbors out ?
The bigger the farm the larger the problems.......


"Some men see things as they are and say Why!
I dream things as they never were and say Why Not"?

Who's listened to this ???? JFK Secret Societies Speech

https://youtu.be/zdMbmdFOvTs?t=322






19 Dec 2019
@ 05:59 pm (GMT)

Frank Vallich

Re: Firearm Laws and the illusion of safety
Slavery!
Personal debt creates wealth for the lending institutions. I had many career roles that were not a good fit and was able to move on, Quit, as no debt = freedom. Life is too short. There were highs and lows. Over welling and providing a wealth of experiences. No succumbing to egregious environments.

Everyone is unique and modelled by their environment or the environment accidentally or intentionally experienced. Flying by the seat of your pants and listening to your gut is NOT everyone’s forte but some pull it off and live. Your gut is your best friend and well worth knowing. You have the time when not enslaved to the almighty dollar.

The Kennedys are a deep subject. Rubbed many powerful people and makes one wonder if they knew the depth of their rub.

Recommend reading the book:
I Heard You Paint Houses: Frank the Irishman Sheeran & Closing the Case on Jimmy Hoffa
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