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Red Herring of the week

08 Jul 2014
@ 08:00 pm (GMT)

Les Mulloy

From my front verandah there is a roadsign visible, which I have measured with my g.p.s. at 1580 metres.
I have a $2000.00 Nightforce NXS 12x42x56 on one rifle -- A $1000.00 Sightron S111 10x50x60 on another and a $450.00 Nikko Sterling Nighteater 10x50x 60 on another
Several times, when the light is favourable, and just for the fun of it ,
I have sat the 3 rigs on a bench and focussed them all on the roadsign -- they all focus very clearly and I can read the sign equally as well with all 3 scopes, to the point where I cannot say one is better than the other , as far as clarity goes.
I am not trying to prove anything at all here -- But the exercise just left me scratching my head a bit

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08 Jul 2014
@ 09:48 pm (GMT)

Dan Keene

Re: Red Herring of the week
Hi Les. Interesting! How do they compare as the light starts to fade in the evening? Cheers, Dan.
08 Jul 2014
@ 11:32 pm (GMT)

Les Mulloy

Re: Red Herring of the week
Hi Dan
Yeah - I never got that serious about comparisons - but both times I tried this , it was in the last hour or so of daylight when mirage was not a factor - all three scopes are affected by mirage if you don't pick the right conditions of course. - which was the reason I kept trying different days to compare them.
I use these scopes on my target rifles at a rifle range for competitions, not for hunting - all perform well for target use -- It was the range use that tweaked my interest as the three scopes had similar clarity on targets at 300 , 600 & 1000 - I had just never had them together on the same day before.
Like I said, I was not trying to prove anything and I realise other factors affect price
09 Jul 2014
@ 12:38 am (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Red Herring of the week
Hi Les, it is no surprise that NF and Sightron look the same, the lenses come from the same factory. But it is interesting to hear about the Nikko comparison. Perhaps these are also Japanese lenses.

My main concern with Nikko Stirling is the scopes falling apart internally. With regular use, the typcal life spans I have seen are 1 week to 2 years. That said, I still see a few old gold crowns still going. I don't allow these optics on our hunts. Nothing worse than a client dialing up, then having the scope stuck at its dialed up position for the rest of the hunt! I prefer to keep the Nikko stirlings on very low recoiling rifles such as the rimfires. I have inspected the Nikko Stirlings internally and the layout is the same as a Leupold so it is a bit of a surprise that they often fail. That said, the Leupold units do fail on very high recoiling rigs, the flat spring which holds the the inner turret mechanism in place can / does pop off its dimple.

I have posi locked a Nikko Stirling. That does seem to be a simple fix. Drill the scope at 45 degrees but not to interfere with the spring, then tap and fit an M3 screw and lock the turret in place. No good for dial scopes but a simple preventative measure for 300 yard rigs etc.
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