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17 Mar 2013
@ 08:45 pm (GMT)

stephan bieganek

What do you recommend .1 MRAD Tactical Knobs or 1/4 MOA Target Knobs ?


18 Mar 2013
@ 05:36 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Sightron
Hi Stephan. I use 1/4 MOA knobs and usually suggest them to clients. This is because most ballistics software is much easier to work with in imperial units. The milrad system is completely metric, each click is 1cm. I find 1cm is very course compared to a quarter inch- but thats me.

Many people overlook metric versus imperial. Again, it is much easier when using such programs as Sierra I6, to have a full imperial system. But for European hunters with appropriate software, a full metric system will be of value.

Here is how I go about it:
My favorite SIII 6-24x50 with Mil dot reticle
MOA turrets
Use mil dots for windage
Range finder in yards
Software set to full English (imp) mode
Wind in Mph
Rifle sighted 3" high at 100 yards for eg 270 yard zero so as not to handicap rifle to 300 yards / no need to dial till past 300 yards.

If using the metric system:
Milrad scope
Range finder in meters
Metric software
Rifle sighted 7.5cm high at 100 meters/metres for 240 meter/metre zero etc.

Mixed systems are an absolute nightmare so try to go one way or the other.

For those who think yards are outdated. Try pacing out 100 yards versus 100 meters. You will be more accurate in your steps if pacing yards because a yard is more akin to our natural gate.

Hope that helps.

19 Mar 2013
@ 07:59 pm (GMT)

stephan bieganek

Re: Sightron
Thanks for the help. I'm going to buy a 6 - 24 30 mm sightron once I find a good vender. I have a Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14X44 mounted on my 7mm wsm. I screwed up and bought it without mil dots.
06 Apr 2013
@ 08:22 pm (GMT)

stephan bieganek

Re: Sightron
What's the difference between these scopes and which one do you use ?

SIT25133 Sightron SIII SS LR Series Riflescope

SIT25126 Sightron SIII 30mm

06 Apr 2013
@ 10:19 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Sightron
Hi Stephan, those product codes you have quoted are not from this site or Sightron's site so I don't know which model is which. The items you have quoted are poorly designated, they should not read like that. Doesn't sound like a good source.

My favorite Sightron and the one I sell the most of, is the SIII 6-24 LRMD (long range mil dot). I like this model, my clients love this model as well. I have had no complaints- period. I would call this the benchmark Sightron model regardless of what Sightron themselves prefer. It would take a bit for Sightron to beat this model I think. The optics are clear enough that at 6 power, you can snap shoot at 10 yards, yet the zoom is ample for long range. You can leave the elevation turret cover on or off, up to you. Eye relief is good, the scopes are rugged. Dials are true and accurate. The mil dots are useful for windage.

AJ tells me there is a shop on the east coast (Canada) that sells Sightron called Hirsch Precision.
08 Apr 2013
@ 08:43 pm (GMT)

stephan bieganek

Re: Sightron
Sightron SIII 6-24x50 with Mil dot reticle

I have been emailing a few suppliers and they have been saying things like this:

Liberty Optics "In the Sightron, the MOA is a nicer reticle for precision shooting"

bowyer outdoor sports "I hardly ever sell a mildot now in that model"

alberta tactical rifle "virtually no-one uses mildots for long range shooting." "moa is a far smaller unit of measurement hence easier to be very precise with"
08 Apr 2013
@ 09:12 pm (GMT)


Re: Sightron
Stephan did ATRS have any Sightron 6x24 in stock? Thanks. Aj[b]
08 Apr 2013
@ 09:55 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Sightron
My issue is not with mil dots versus MOA. I simply like a solid cross hair for low light shooting and shooting into bush/woods. I also like the fact that I can cover the turrets so they don't get bumped or alternatively, cover the windage turret at the very least. Its a personal preference. Most of my NZ hunting clients have done the same. Target shooters tend to prefer the MOA unit. That said, I am shooting at 8-32 MOA unit at the moment on a client's hunting rifle.

Buy whatever suits you, neither is a bad choice.
09 Apr 2013
@ 09:24 pm (GMT)

stephan bieganek

Re: Sightron
They said that they would have to special order a mildot 6-24x50. If the distributor has 1 in stock it would take a week to come in. If they don't then it's a 6 week wait. I'll probably get my scope through the states and have it shipped to Sweet Grass, Montana for pick up. Bowyer's Outdoor Sports

Farm, Maple Creek, SK can get either type in for $975.
02 May 2013
@ 09:49 pm (GMT)

stephan bieganek

rings and mounts
Will Burris Signature Medium Zee Pos-Align 30mm Rings be ideal when i mount my sightron 6-24 x 50 onto my model 70 or should i go with Burris Signature High Zee Pos-Align 30mm Rings ? What base should I use? Burris 2pc XTB SAV SA/LA Round Rear Accutri Base (410615).
02 May 2013
@ 10:58 pm (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Sightron
Hard case, I just mounted those bases on a rifle a few minutes ago. Yes, good bases.

Medium height is correct, doesn't matter whether you have a fat or thin barrel.

Use the instructions in my long range book for mounting.
Torque the torx screws in the bases to 18 inch lb with loctite

Torque the cross screws on the Burris rings to 40lb lubed with loctite. That is very important. Make sure the rings are pushed forwards before tightening screws- also very important.

Remove surplus oil from between rings and plastic inserts, don't over do it, just use a handi towel, no degreaser.

Tighten the ring torx screws to 20lb, no loctite required.

Job done.


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