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02 Oct 2017
@ 07:32 am (GMT)

James Milnes

Hey all
Wanting to hopefully gain for others experiences. I've recently been diagnosed with Raynaud's phenomenon so need to find some serious cold weather gloves.
Can anyone please recommend some quality waterproof well insulated gloves to save me becoming a fair weather hunter
Kind regards
Jimmy

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02 Oct 2017
@ 08:57 am (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Cold weather gloves
Hi James, first off, please do not allow yourself to become victim to the old idea of genetics being passed down with no room for change. It is now well proven that while we do have a genetic baseline, the nucleus of each cell contains a full range of genetic code but does NOT contain any form of directive/ It has no brain, no mind of its own. Cells react to stimulus at their surface, in response to stimuli and then build the genes within each cell to react according to the information given. We are far more dynamic than past scientific models. Nothing has to be set in stone.

Secondly, make sure you are making good use of herbs. My U.S readers are particularly behind in this regard and I find myself continually nagging at individual clients. Make good use of fresh ginger root, chop up at least an inch or so , steep in hot water and drink each day (provided you are not on any blood thinner meds). Use this to improve liver function and blood flow. Steep a strong brew of fresh paresely (drink for one week) to help clear your kidney. Your liver and kidneys keep your blood in a healthy condition. Lay off the fizzy drinks and also consider extra strong brews of Ginger as a replacement for a whisky in the evening.

To my U.S guys- yep, I am nagging again. If you have not started making use of fresh herbs yet, get on with it. Its just one small thing you can do as a gesture of appreciation towards your bodies.

Thirdly, make use of Chinese massage if and when you can afford it. Find a properly trained Chinese massage therapist (a strong male) and have him work over your spine top to bottom. Keep your mouth shut when it hurts and take it like an Asian. The massage will be hard but it will promote nerve release. In the east, massage is a normal part of every day life. In the west, we see it as a peculiarity, something we might try once in our lives. We are for the most part completely and utterly ignorant of this subject and the high level of skill that a trained Chinese therapist has to offer.

Now to your question of gloves. Thick gloves may be useful but do consider using very thin polyprop gloves so that you can keep spares in your pack. Polyproylene is very fast drying and may be better than a single thick pair of gloves which once wet, may not be useful. So do keep this in mind as a possible option or as a back up to your thick gloves.

If you have been under a lot of stress, it may just be that your body has been prioritizing your core (fight / flight) and not your extremities for very long periods of time. If this is so, you will need to make a concerted effort to release adrenalin through body based therapy- some physical activity which gives your body a chance to release (called a bottom up approach - to the brain). Meditation is a top down approach and should also be taken into consideration. In the U.S, current research shows that Yoga has been highly beneficial for soldiers returning from combat (works in both directions as it is a meditative exercise program). It may not be a magic pill for the returning soldier, but those who have had access to this state that it has helped them. Others may prefer something that tables adrenalin, such as a harder combat sport. But in contrast to this, massage therapy can be just as useful as other approaches, but here again I am not speaking of the pathetic western kind.

What I am trying to say is that there is more to you than just a label / syndrome.

For any others reading this, did any of you see the micro chipped wrist bands at the Sika show to excite (and oxygenate) cell activity? Could be yet another gimmick. Would be worth finding out more...

All the best.
02 Oct 2017
@ 09:16 am (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Cold weather gloves
P.S- you must absolutely stay the hell away from these stupid aluminum body tactical stocks.

Every time one of these makers shoves one of these in my face, I immediately get the image of the movie dumb and dumber where the guy licks the frozen swing set and ends up stuck to it.

Ali + Cold = Pain and loss of hand function. Understood?

Just stay clear of such stocks.
02 Oct 2017
@ 02:44 pm (GMT)

Paul Leverman

Re: Cold weather gloves
Not really sure of the weather extremes that you will be faced with, but here the temps go crazy in each direction. We can gain as much as 100* in one day with a cold front of -40 to a chinook wind to bring it up to 65.

When we were training for ice water rescue, they gave us neoprene suits and gloves. They became totally water logged in seconds and yet even though we were soaking wet, we were toasty warm and functioning fine. It was really kind of strange, went against everything we thought we knew about being wet in the cold. The downside of neoprene is it is bulky. You would have to get an extra large trigger guard to fit your finger into.

When we normallly hunt in the winter, shooting mittens or gloves where the fingers fold back for trigger use are common. Wool is the main fabric, and usually a double or triple layer. Again, bulk is the downside. Most arctic military gear is good, but beware that some is more for show than it is for function. We've found that arctic countries have the best equipment; the Scandanavians seem to have the best.
02 Oct 2017
@ 06:46 pm (GMT)

James Milnes

Re: Cold weather gloves
Thanks for the help and replies guys they're much appreciated, the cold here in the UK isn't as bad as many get it but it sure feels like it with this bloody thing.
Cheers
J
02 Oct 2017
@ 07:51 pm (GMT)

Andrew Murray

Re: Cold weather gloves
I have he interesting situation of having a missing finger. So custom gloves are generally my thing. Leather with fur inserts is nice. Wool is great but also heavy. Neoprene could be a great solution. My missing digit is quite very prone to the cold due to the veins and arteries having been cut short plus the scar tissue which is quite non vascular. The wool is quite good.

On that bracelet note Nathan I am reminded of Peter Brock's crystal polariser in his commodores. Not a lot of credibility behind them. Not that I have seen the product you are referring to but it sounds dubious.
02 Oct 2017
@ 09:04 pm (GMT)

Thomas Kitchen

Re: Cold weather gloves
last time i went snowboarding i just wore a pair of these https://www.farsouth.co.nz/merino-beanie-nz#!/POSSUM-POLYPROP-FINGERLESS-GLOVES/p/89014422/category=24266222
i was worried as i suffer cold hands and feet pretty badly but they were great cold when you touched the snow for about 10 second then were warm again even when wet.

just on the herb side of thing i went and saw a naturopath/herbalist once.
something came up and think she checked my hands or feet commented about how cold they were etc.
anyway she gave me some herb stuff to take,
when i saw her next she ask if i had noticed anything to do with my health in general.
i mentioned that my feet were getting warm during the night and tingly.
turned out she had added liquorice into the stuff she had given me to help with circulations.

Nathan are those the magnet ones or a new one?
we are so far away from fully understand electric pulse on the human body.
for anyone interested bit of a test stand straight up, feet together and hold your arm out 90 degrees to your shoulder and get someone to push at your hand/wrist while you try to stay still, now try same thing again but hold your cellphone in your left hand (assuming you didn't have it near you first time around) notice any difference?
02 Oct 2017
@ 09:06 pm (GMT)

Ben Law

Re: Cold weather gloves
Quote:
Peter Brock's crystal polariser.


HaHa Classic!


Anyone remember the power balance band craze from about 6-7 years ago???
03 Oct 2017
@ 09:59 am (GMT)

Nathan Foster

Re: Cold weather gloves
I have only had a small amount of time to investigate the product seen at the Sika show, reports are worrying as I believe such products have done the rounds before, ending in bankruptcy. It peeves me to lose time on such things when I have so much else that needs to be done here.

https://shuzi.co.nz/

I remember when magnetic pads were common in racing stables to help remove swelling from horse joints. This at least seemed to work to some extent.

In any case, I do hope you get some relief James.
03 Oct 2017
@ 12:18 pm (GMT)

Clive Judd

Re: Cold weather gloves
Hi James, my experience thus far has indicated the key to keeping the body warm is to trap an unchanging layer of warm air/water next to the skin. If clothing/gloves are too tight, then it prevents the circulation/sharing of warm air to areas of the body that receive less circulation. For those with poor circulation, the sharing of heat becomes important, thus my recommendation for serious insulation is a thin set of woolen thermal gloves followed by insulating mittens, followed by water/wind proof mittens.
Base layer thermal glove- wicks moisture away, allows air flow with its open weave. (wool)
Second layer insulating mitten - Allows the sharing of warm air, especially if it reaches over the wrist. (wool or polarfleece type, i like polarfleece for this). This can be multiple layers if need be.
Outer layer water/wind proof mitten - prevents warm air from being pulled away and your insulating material becoming wet.
As Paul said, neoprene is the go for conditions that create wet cloths regardless of what you do.
As Nathan said regarding circulation and herbs.
If more dexterity is needed then gloves instead of mits, but ensure they are not too tight.
05 Oct 2017
@ 12:28 am (GMT)

Paul Leverman

Re: Cold weather gloves
As well, remember that up to 55% of the body's heat loss is through an uncovered and unprotected head. Wear a hat.
05 Oct 2017
@ 03:00 am (GMT)

mark korte

Re: Cold weather gloves
I'm with Clive and Paul on this - thin poly liner gloves, insulating mitten and shell mitt. The mittens loose enough to easily shake or pull off when the moment comes. Its the only way I have found to stay warm when sitting in the cold. In extreme weather I also use the hand warmer pads you activate by shaking and then can stick into the finger area of your mitten with the adhesive on the pad. They won't burn you out, but they can make enough difference to keep you out there till dark. They make them for toes too where they attach to the insole of the boot at the toe. And absolutely wear an appropriate hat for conditions.
06 Oct 2017
@ 11:28 am (GMT)

Dan Keene

Re: Cold weather gloves
Hi James,
Sorry to hear about your Raynauds syndrome. I had to Google it to see what it was. Is it correct that it is reduced circulation in extremities?
If so then everything the other guys said regarding insulation and Nathans comments regarding herbs are all very useful.
I think you should also consider how to improve circulation and how your body uses energy and generates heat.
Not all circulation in your body is driven by the heart. Some of it is passive and blood gets moved by movement and external pressures. Hence your hands stay warmer when they are being used.
The efficiency of arterial flow is heavily influenced by the food you eat. Research points for you wheat, gluten, sugar, industrial seed oils and vitamin deficiencies.
Energy in all cells is made by mitochondria. You can influence the number and efficiency of mitochondria in your cells through diet, exercise, light exposure and other ways.
Also how you breath can influence blood flow. If you breath through your nose you uptake 10% more oxygen and also produce Nitric Oxide which dilates blood vessels. Both of which have got to be good for circulation.
So there are many avenues for you to explore improve your situation. A regular Doctor may not be aware of many of these points as they are fairly new developments in the medical world. If you have a functional medicine doctor in your area they would be the person to consult about curing this rather than managing symptoms through drugs.
Best of luck in getting it resolved.
Regards,Dan.
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